fuzzsniffvoyage
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The debut song by my new band of alter ego's Snot Rocket. But I had to fire myself as the drummer and replace with Jeff Lockhart.
Let me know what ya'll think.
Let me know what ya'll think.
rayc
retroreprobate
I can understand sacking yourself but why did you leave Jeff in the backroom with mics set up in the front room?
Bass doesn't work so hard panned for my ears.
Need to bring the vox down a bit.
Bass doesn't work so hard panned for my ears.
Need to bring the vox down a bit.
fuzzsniffvoyage
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I don't get it. When I listen to this in my "studio" it sounds decent. I listen to it in the car and it sounds like shit. I recorded this song as basic as possible. 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 vocal track. 3 mics on the drum kit. Kik, 1 over head and a 57 between the hat and snare. And just a bit of reverb. I guess I'm gonna have to fire the producer/engineer 
dobro
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Drums up, vocal down. You could even redo the vocal to get tighter timing.
fuzzsniffvoyage
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Thanks for the comments.
Here we go. Re-mixed. Re-recorded vocals.
Here we go. Re-mixed. Re-recorded vocals.
Tadpui
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Hehehe, I like your intensity 
It sounds like the vocals are in a different world than the rest of the mix, kinda like they're sitting on top of everything else instead of nestled in there. Unfortunately I don't have the expertise to confidently recommend much in the way of specific things to try. The instruments all sound a little mid-scooped so I'd expect the vocals to live happily in that kind of environment.
Definitely need more bass guitar, could use more drums, and you could even turn up the guitars a little if you keep them from interfering with the vocals with some EQ.
It sounds like the vocals are in a different world than the rest of the mix, kinda like they're sitting on top of everything else instead of nestled in there. Unfortunately I don't have the expertise to confidently recommend much in the way of specific things to try. The instruments all sound a little mid-scooped so I'd expect the vocals to live happily in that kind of environment.
Definitely need more bass guitar, could use more drums, and you could even turn up the guitars a little if you keep them from interfering with the vocals with some EQ.
Farview
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I would add another guitar part, pan the guitars wide. Then that leaves some room for the vocals without having them so out in front.
ShanPeyton
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I kind of like the first mix better in some ways. I would have panned the guitar just a little more to the center say at 80% and the bass in a little bit to the centre and then maybe glue them together somehow using a little bit of reverb ? I like the idea of the simpleness you got. It's just a matter of making those two work together with the space you have on your drums. For the vocals i would have turned them down a little bit and put some delay on them to give it a little bit of depth separate from the rest of the stuff.
The second mix i don't think quite does it. You kind of lost me with that one man. Sorry.
The second mix i don't think quite does it. You kind of lost me with that one man. Sorry.
fuzzsniffvoyage
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Don't be sorry. I need a little direction here. I'm doing this on my own. This is the 1st song I've written that I feel comfortable singing and I want to get this as right as possible.
I do want the song structure to be simple. I want 1 gtr, bass, drums and vocal.
I was going for the Van Halen mix. Gtr left bass right, drums and vocal centered.
I did use reverb on it's own bus and used the send on each channel. I'll strip the song of compression and eq and re-post.
fuzzsniffvoyage
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Burn Raw
Okay, there's no compression, or eq.(plug in's--I did use a PRO VLA 2 recording the vocals w/sm57.) I even knocked out the amp sim on the bass. All there is is reverb. GTR & Bass each panned 80%. Vocal centered and drums, kik centered snare a little the the right and ride a little to the left.( Used 3 mics. Samson CO2 on the Ride/Floor tom about 2 feet above. A SM 57 on the snare and hi-hat, and a Beta 52 a on the kik, just out side the reso skin.)
As far as the levels go, I have them as far up as they'll go without clipping.
What I think I'm hearing: The hi-hat and cymbals in general sound to far away. No definition on the snare not very tight, and the kik, same.
The guitar, I was going for the dirtiest over distorted sound I could get. I think I got it. Wasn't going for great tone. The bass gtr, okay I guess. sounded better with the amp sim.
I'll never like the sound of my own voice, so it's hard to be objective.
Okay, there's no compression, or eq.(plug in's--I did use a PRO VLA 2 recording the vocals w/sm57.) I even knocked out the amp sim on the bass. All there is is reverb. GTR & Bass each panned 80%. Vocal centered and drums, kik centered snare a little the the right and ride a little to the left.( Used 3 mics. Samson CO2 on the Ride/Floor tom about 2 feet above. A SM 57 on the snare and hi-hat, and a Beta 52 a on the kik, just out side the reso skin.)
As far as the levels go, I have them as far up as they'll go without clipping.
What I think I'm hearing: The hi-hat and cymbals in general sound to far away. No definition on the snare not very tight, and the kik, same.
The guitar, I was going for the dirtiest over distorted sound I could get. I think I got it. Wasn't going for great tone. The bass gtr, okay I guess. sounded better with the amp sim.
I'll never like the sound of my own voice, so it's hard to be objective.