BR8 recording

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Hey recording wizards:

I've been trying to capture a live sound by recording into a mixer and then into a BR8, but the results are not so hot.
I'm recording drums (2 mics), two accoustic guitars and vocals through a PA (and micing each speaker of the PA). These go into a Behringer 6 channel mixer and then into the BR8 via the RCA inputs.
The mix sounds great in the mixer, but in the BR8 it sounds distorted and filtered.
I changed the effects in the BR8 to record dry and that helped a little.
The recording on the BR8 via the stereo RCA inputs seems to cause a clashing of sounds since the left and right channels are recieving the same guitar and vocals from the PA speakers (though on the mixer there is no clashing of the two mono channels).

I'm using SM57 mics on the PA speakers, a vocal mic overhead on the drums, and a cardioid condenser mic on the drums. The drums sound great, but that's about it.
I'm thinking I'll have to record each instrument separately into the BR8, with the exception of the drums- which is fine if that' s the best way to do it.

Any ideas out there?
Muchas gracias.
Patrick
 
I dont have the BR-8 but do have the BR532, I had a similar problem my self. I was recording my amp with a SM57 tried close micing and distant micing levels set properly and would get some background distortion even with the gain adjusted lower than normal still some distortion.
I decided to try my Sony Stereo mic recorded from a distance and it worked great no distortion. So I am baffled my self why the shure mic dont work if you figure it out let me know....Good luck!
 
mic distortion

Thanks for the tip.
I have a sony stereo mic, and I'll try that.
I also found out that I shouldn't be recording above 0db on the mixer before going into the BR8. (I was recording between 0-6db). I'll see if that helps also.
I'm so close to getting a good recording, if I can just figure out how to fix this problem.
Thanks alot.
Patrick
 
Watch your input signal (clipping) and your recording signal should be between the 12 & 4 in the info screen. Digtal doesn't like a hot signal like analog tape.
 
The first thing that comes to my mind here is "Micing the PA speakers". I wouldnt recommend this technique. I would suggest unplugging the PA speakers and using head phones instead. Use the 2 mics you had on the PA speakers for extra drum mics.

Try to get a good sound in the BR8 totally dry. Than come back in and add some effects if you think it needs a little. I think it is always best to start at zero and work my up rather than having to rerecord a track that had too much reverb.

Good Luck. I hope this helps.



Steven
 
If you are looking for the BESt way to do it. And the BEST sounding recording. Than I would have to insist on recording each part seperately. Thats the way the Pros do it, and thats the quality we are all chasing. You must record seperately.!!!!

Trust Me.


Steven
 
Hi Steven - Great songs and recordings too! What kind of mic did you use for vocals?
 
I use a Audio Technica AT4033 Studio Mic for all my vocals.

Thanks for listening.

Steven
 
Thanks to all of you that responded.
I guess I'm going to have to get smart here and do it one step at a time. The PA reverb effect really was muddying things up.
-Patrick
 
The key (for me) to a really cool full sounding guitar is depth and seperation.

Depth: I achieve serious depth in my "Guitar sound" a few different ways. I first record a guitar part. (With the least amount of reverb as possible) Then I will go to a new track and record the same part again. Next I will record another guitar playing the exact same part. Now I will play around with panning a little and bounce the 3 guitar tracks down to 2 open tracks in stereo. Now I will erase the first 3 guitar tracks and record a different guitar part. continueing the same pattern as before. I do this until I have all my guitar parts recorded.

Seperation: I get seperation when I mix down by adjusting eqs and panning different tracks and adjusting different reverb settings for every guitar part. Dont be afraid to pan a guitar hard right or hard left. Also, make sure you can hear EVERY guitar part. Dont let one guitar track drown out all your other guitars.

On my song Matter of Opinion I have 4 different guitar parts. I recorded each part 3 seperate times. Thats 12 guitars!

I hope this helps.


Steven
 
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