Bout Damn Time....

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It's the smell..
.....I posted something in this forum again. Got a new toy this weekend....Roland Fantom G6 workstation.:D Went down to Abilene to do some studio work and sometimes the after hours work is the most fun. Here's a tune I threw together with a couple of buddies....

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8181369

There's some reverb issues on the guitar, which was surprising difficult to dial in (tired, tired ears). Probably need to go back and low-pass the reverb plug on it.:cool:

Mix and tune critiques requested. Thanks. I think I'll go check out some other tunes around here.
 
Sorry don't have much to say on the mix...guitar sounded good to me, no reverb problems here..

The Roland sounds great huh? lovely keyboard sounds..I could sip my double Espresso macchiato to this quite easily :)
 
The cymbal crashes and ride are pretty horrible, but the rest sounds good. This reminds me that I need to make a dentist appointment. :D
 
Nice, man. Very nice. I like it all around. Love the new keyboard sounds, and the guitar sounds just fine to me.
 
Greg_L said:
The cymbal crashes and ride are pretty horrible, but the rest sounds good. This reminds me that I need to make a dentist appointment. :D
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You've got teeth?:p

Hey, this is good time for a question that's bugged me for years. It'll be good to get a drummer's ear....what specifically turned you off with the cymbal sounds...aside for the beating they take at 128k/sec encoding? I had thought they were far better than some other contemporary cymbal sounds.
 
TeyshaBlue said:
You've got teeth?:p
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lol

Hey, this is good time for a question that's bugged me for years. It'll be good to get a drummer's ear....what specifically turned you off with the cymbal sounds...aside for the beating they take at 128k/sec encoding? I had thought they were far better than some other contemporary cymbal sounds.
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Does this have a major impact as I have trouble taming cymbals, so much so I want to just keep them at a minimal now..
 
I'm with Gerg on the cymbal crashes. They're pretty brittle sounding. You might want to go back into the percussion patterns (I assume you assembled the percussion track out of patterns, not on the fly) and lower the velociy of the cymbal strikes, and resequence it. Might even want to experiment with a different kit.

Otherwise it sounds good. I have to confess that I'm not a huge fan of brass accompanyment but for this song it fits.
 
128 definitely isn't friendly to cymbals, and it seems to be worse with canned cymbals, but these have a harsh kind of scratchy sizzle to them. Even the ride's bell ping has some weird harshness to it. What did you use for the drums/cymbals? Programmed drums, your keyboard?
 
Greg_L said:
128 definitely isn't friendly to cymbals, and it seems to be worse with canned cymbals, but these have a harsh kind of scratchy sizzle to them. Even the ride's bell ping has some weird harshness to it. What did you use for the drums/cymbals? Programmed drums, your keyboard?
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Yeah....they're from the Roland Fantom G6. I guess they're so much better than what I've had that I lost my objectivity...that and your ears are unquestionalby better in tune to cymbal nuance than mine. Thanks, amigo.
 
Zaphod B said:
I'm with Gerg on the cymbal crashes. They're pretty brittle sounding. You might want to go back into the percussion patterns (I assume you assembled the percussion track out of patterns, not on the fly) and lower the velociy of the cymbal strikes, and resequence it. Might even want to experiment with a different kit.

Otherwise it sounds good. I have to confess that I'm not a huge fan of brass accompanyment but for this song it fits.
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But, that would require that I fight all the way through that huge friggin manual.:mad:
Good point on the velocity settings. I'll have to read up on that.:cool:
 
Zaphod B said:
Otherwise it sounds good. I have to confess that I'm not a huge fan of brass accompanyment but for this song it fits.
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Fine. I'll leave my Tower of Power CD collection at home for the trip to AZ.:mad:

:D:D:D
 
TeyshaBlue said:
Yeah....they're from the Roland Fantom G6. I guess they're so much better than what I've had that I lost my objectivity...that and your ears are unquestionalby better in tune to cymbal nuance than mine. Thanks, amigo.
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No prob. Just keep working with it.
 
To inject some positivity, I will say that the snare sidestick and kick sounds really good, so well done there. Kick could be a little louder. The full snare sound is pretty good for the genre, although I'd personally like something with a little more body to it.
 
Greg_L said:
To inject some positivity, I will say that the snare sidestick and kick sounds really good, so well done there. Kick could be a little louder. The full snare sound is pretty good for the genre, although I'd personally like something with a little more body to it.
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I was kinda in Donald Fagen mode when I put that kit together. That snare reminded a little of the one he used on "Deacon Blues". I've got so many kits to work with, and a drum modeling expansion board to boot, that it'll be a while before I know my way around that thing.:o

Positive/negative. It's all critique and it's all good.:cool:
 
TeyshaBlue said:
But, that would require that I fight all the way through that huge friggin manual.:mad:
Good point on the velocity settings. I'll have to read up on that.:cool:
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The manual is one intimidating motherfucker, isn't it? :eek:

But it's easy to edit the patterns once you've created them.
 
Very cool sounding tune. The cymbals are kind of funny like Greg pointed out, but the rest is very nice.
 
Teysha, I find the cymbals in my Fantom X8 to be tricky to work with, too. I think a lot of it has to do with the way the cymbal waveforms are set up to respond to variations in strike velocity. At what sounds like a reasonable audible volume, the cymbal wafeforms are reacting as if you are beating the crap out of them. Lowering the strike velocity helps them behave a little better.

The better, and permanent solution is to edit the velocity control parameters for the individual cymbals to tame them down. Lotta work, though.
 
Supercreep said:
Teyshowned. :p

Cool mellow tones, mang. Guitar sounds a little too sparkly for jazz work.

I agree with Gergles about the cymbals, although it's not a show-stopper.
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Thanks SC. That guitar was tough to track. Bright combined with boxy/boomy. It was great for the project he brought it for....good for rythm work on a country CD, but not great for leads. But, we were just throwing this down and sometimes you just work with what ya got.:cool:

Zaph, sounds like I get a tutorial on the drive to WestFest! I'll bring the manual. ROFL.

Funny it should be set up so aggressively right out of the box.:)
 
TeyshaBlue said:
Zaph, sounds like I get a tutorial on the drive to WestFest! I'll bring the manual. ROFL.
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I'll tell you everything I know (there's 5 minutes, right there :D) and lie about everything else. :p
 
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