bob dylan with a blue bottle on an apple ad

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DeckRoid said:
Bah... Dylan sold out a long time ago... Victoria's Secret ads, Starbucks recordings, Travelling Wilburys, hell - showing up to a folk festival in '65 with an electric guitar... (a big deal back then, and to some degree, now too...)
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So am I a sellout. I go to work for the money?
 
Well I have Time Out of Mind, and Love and Theft, and now Modern Times as well, and I think it's a great album. Just saw the commercial last night in fact, and was a little surprised to see him doing it, but maybe he's embracing legal downloads to help discourage people from the illegal route (who knows). He is the most bootlegged artist of all time afterall.

I don't see how going electric at Newport has anything to do with selling out. (as a side-bragging-note, I got to work with Sam Lay, his drummer at Newport and on the Highway 61 sessions, that was cool stuff).
 
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timboZ said:
So am I a sellout. I go to work for the money?
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Not at all. But then, were you shaking your fist at the sky cuz it was raining? I like Dylan's music, and we all do things to make this stuff called money that is used in turn for goods and services.

However, when you are from the Kerouac generation and fought against everything that "The Man" stood for by song and lifestyle, there must be better ways to make said money.

Using music I grew up with to now sell life insurance to those of my generation hitting retirement, using toys that I grew up with to sell cars (ie, HotWheels Track and Honda)... it just seems to me that folks are "getting theirs" and hence doing what "The Man" was doing back in the day.

Dont get me wrong. Money is good. It allows me to enjoy things like a new mixer and mic. It just seems, to me (in my own perverse mind), that selling items for a multibillion dollar company when you used to fight against big corporations can be viewed as "selling out".

Kevin Smith once said that he would do anything to get a movie greenlighted. Kudos. He does what he does and I like it. Dylan does what he does and, while I like his music, it seems that he "sold out".
 
DeckRoid said:
Bah... Dylan sold out a long time ago... Victoria's Secret ads)
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sometimes you just gotta do what u gotta do i guess
 
Yeah, I saw this commercial the other day on tv. I didn't care that it was Bob Dylan - never liked his drippy folk music anyway, I only cared that a fairly new mic was being shown on tv.
 
Eh, sellout?

First and foremost, I want to hear nothing about the Travelling Wilburys!

Second, what better way is there to try and reach a younger generation than through whatever medium they are currently obsessed with. While Dylan might be a legend, aside from most college kids who claim they listen to him because it makes them sound cool, how much of his audience is part of the iPod generation?*

I should think as an artist who was most popular 40 years ago, that I would jump into whatever medium I could to get new interest from a new generation. As for the money side of it, yeah - Bob Dylan probably doesn't need it... haha... however, its always nice to make the cash, so why not go for both at the same time.

Plus, did any of us see the big bag of money in his hand as he walked off the sound stage? I'm not saying he's doing pro-bono work for massive corporations - I sure as Hell wouldn't - but it was Apple who produced the Martin Scorsese documentary No Direction Home, so he is already involved with them. It seems it was a matter of convenience that he make this package deal and put out some publicity to the youngins just getting into music now.

On a smaller scale, I would love to be able to sell my music and make a living doing it... I'd rather be popular than starve to death just so my music was considered "art"... I'm sure this is a topic for another forum, so I think I will go and find it to rant over there :)

*I don't have an exact age group for the range of the iPod generation. I know that people of all ages use 'em, but let's face it, most of us think of the teens to 20-somethings who haul them everywhere they go... I know I am guilty of doing just that, but they are so damn convenient!
 
VTgreen81 said:
I must say I was a bit surprised to see it, especially after he just came out in the media trashing modern music technology...............atrocious............. I believe is the word he used.
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I think he was talking about his own voice...
 
kid klash said:
I think he was talking about his own voice...
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Well he learned to sing from a guy who had Huntington's. Whatcha gonna do?

And I agree with Cusebassman.
 
kid klash said:
I think he was talking about his own voice...
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He was probalby talking about the insane compression used on modern recordings. He said something to the effect of "theres sound coming out from everywhere". That's compression.
 
cusebassman said:
First and foremost, I want to hear nothing about the Travelling Wilburys!
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WTF. I love the Travelling Wilburys too. How can you have a problem with them. It might not have been the best music ever made but it was awesome in it's own right.
 
mrT said:
WTF. I love the Travelling Wilburys too. How can you have a problem with them. It might not have been the best music ever made but it was awesome in it's own right.
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I interpreted his comment to mean he didn't want to hear anything BAD about the Wilburys, meaning he does like them. But maybe I was wrong.

For the record, I think they're great too.

And speakng of Dylan & the Wilburys, anyone have any insight as to why he didn't show up for the Concert for George? Always seemed to me like he should have been there, but who knows, maybe he was just on tour. Of course it wouldn't be surprising if he just didn't want to play a big gig like that. Look at me, talking like I know Dylan.
 
RAK said:
Well he learned to sing from a guy who had Huntington's. Whatcha gonna do?
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That 'splains everthing! :D

Like I said, I like his song writing, but I still prefer to hear his songs sung by someone (anyone!) else. ;)
 
kid klash said:
That 'splains everthing! :D

Like I said, I like his song writing, but I still prefer to hear his songs sung by someone (anyone!) else. ;)
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By the time that Dylan made his trip to visit Woody Guthrie, Guthrie was suffering from Huntington's Chorea (sp?). He was listening to Woody sing and came away that that was the sound, when really Woody would have never sung that way if he was healthy.

At least that's what I learned from Down The Highway (or the title was something like that), a great fairly recent bio on Dylan.
 
i like how he's all backlit so we don't have to see his ugly old mug :D
 
VTgreen81 said:
I must say I was a bit surprised to see it, especially after he just came out in the media trashing modern music technology...............atrocious............. I believe is the word he used.
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That is just what I was thinking. :rolleyes:
 
What's wrong with trying to earn some $$$ and why is this be a sellout?

If he wouldn't care about money, he would have never gone to a recording studio, record his music and sell it -- in which case you would have never even heard of him! :D
 
Giganova said:
What's wrong with trying to earn some $$$ and why is this be a sellout?

If he wouldn't care about money, he would have never gone to a recording studio, record his music and sell it -- in which case you would have never even heard of him! :D
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he's a musician not a apple sales rep.

giraffe said:
i like how he's all backlit so we don't have to see his ugly old mug :D
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even more insulting. :D
 
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