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Theres not much headroom cause its not meant to be. Hifi speakers have it while monitors have accuracy and image and for some thats better.
So you wont feel that much bass but you will hear it a lot.
And if you pair them wiht a good sub, (low crossed) than its heaven!
So you wont feel that much bass but you will hear it a lot.
And if you pair them wiht a good sub, (low crossed) than its heaven!
CoolCat
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CoolCat
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here's an interesting one...BM5A and others DOT and a Dan Richards?
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Shichidan
Posted 05-25-05 04:50 AM
I just took a drive recently to a studio. I brought some different pairs of monitors with me. The studio is looking to upgrade from Behringer Truth monitors. Here's some comments by the studio owner:
http://www.vsplanet.com/ubb/ultimat...c;f=16;t=016750
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posted by "GawsDigitalUnderground" at vsplanet.com
Dan Richards was nice enough to offer to ride down to my studio today with a Jeepload of Monitors..Actually he brought the Mackie HR824's, Dynaudio BM5A's, and the 6's..We also compared them against my Behringer Truth's.
This is just my personal opinion of what I heard today..Take it for what it's worth comming from me!
The Behringers vs the Mackies..There was a difference. I won't say that the Truth's were better, but I can't say they were that much worse either..Dan and I both pretty much agreed that if you factor in the price difference, we didn't hear that much improvement to warrant paying $1,200 for the Mackies, vs, the $400 for the Truths...Now if money isn't a concern, I wouldn't hesitate buying the Mackies over the Truths. The Mackies seemed to have more low end, and were abit clearer. But $800 worth? I don't know. Seems like a good Eq between the recorder and the Truth's, and you'd have the Mackies..But that's just my 2 cents.
Now, the Mackie HR 824's vs the Dynaudio..Well, what can I say, not really in the same ball park to my ears..The Dynaudio BM5A's just rocked..Tight focused bass, not muddy. Crystal clear high's, etc, etc. I was really impressed. We ran some of my mixes through each and with the Dynaudio's, you could hear clearly the reverb trails, the sizzle in the cymbals, and everything. Things that I couldn't hear with the Truth's, and the Mackies were right up there in the BM5's. What can I say, I'm buying the Dynaudio BM5's..
It would have been great to get to spend a couple of weeks with both sets of monitors, and got to do some actual tracking, and mixing with them, but for a short days listen, the Dynaudio's seemed like the clear winner of my moolah..
What we auditioned:
Behringer Truth
Mackie HR824
Dynaudio BM5A's
Dynaudio BM6A's
I agree pretty much with the studio owner [ if you read his comments at the link. ] I thought the Truth's sounded like they were muffled. I didn't hear any real improvement when comparing the Truth's to the Mackie's. The Mackie's had more low-end - and a little better separation of instruments, but not by much. And I couldn't justify the $1200+ cost of the Mackie's over the $399 cost of the Truth's.
Next were the BM5A's. Immediately there was a noticable difference. With the 5A's I could easily hear details of the program material that were not at all evident on the Truths or the Mackie's. With the 5A's I could hear all the reverb tails, the top of the snare and cymbals, and overall clear separation of instruments. The bass was tighter but still full.
I think the model numbers Dynaudio gave the 5A's and 6A's is a little confusing – and some people might think the 6A's have 6" woofers and the 5A's would have 5" woofers. Not so. The BM5A's and BM6A's both have 6.89" woofers. 5A's have 50W amps on tweeter and woofer. 6A's have 100W amps. The 6A's have the BM series styling. The 5A's have the AIR series styling.
The 6A's sounded near to the 5A's until we turned up the 6A's louder. That's when the 100W amps showed the 6A's to have more horsepower. But for the small size control room the 5A's more than do the job.
In the end, we thought the 5A's [ also considering price ] were the best tool for the job. At under $900 the 5A's kicked the $1200+ Mackie's to the curb. The owner is buying the 5A's.
One of my pairs of personal monitors are Dynaudio AIR 15's with a Benchmark DAC1. So, I'm used to that $3000+ monitor sound on a daily basis. The 5A's deliver the same type of sound [ clarity, imagery, depth, no ear fatigue ] in a smaller package.
Dan Richards
Sound Pure Pro Audio
(866) 409-3686
Studio Reviews Magazine
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Shichidan
Posted 05-25-05 04:50 AM
I just took a drive recently to a studio. I brought some different pairs of monitors with me. The studio is looking to upgrade from Behringer Truth monitors. Here's some comments by the studio owner:
http://www.vsplanet.com/ubb/ultimat...c;f=16;t=016750
quote:
posted by "GawsDigitalUnderground" at vsplanet.com
Dan Richards was nice enough to offer to ride down to my studio today with a Jeepload of Monitors..Actually he brought the Mackie HR824's, Dynaudio BM5A's, and the 6's..We also compared them against my Behringer Truth's.
This is just my personal opinion of what I heard today..Take it for what it's worth comming from me!
The Behringers vs the Mackies..There was a difference. I won't say that the Truth's were better, but I can't say they were that much worse either..Dan and I both pretty much agreed that if you factor in the price difference, we didn't hear that much improvement to warrant paying $1,200 for the Mackies, vs, the $400 for the Truths...Now if money isn't a concern, I wouldn't hesitate buying the Mackies over the Truths. The Mackies seemed to have more low end, and were abit clearer. But $800 worth? I don't know. Seems like a good Eq between the recorder and the Truth's, and you'd have the Mackies..But that's just my 2 cents.
Now, the Mackie HR 824's vs the Dynaudio..Well, what can I say, not really in the same ball park to my ears..The Dynaudio BM5A's just rocked..Tight focused bass, not muddy. Crystal clear high's, etc, etc. I was really impressed. We ran some of my mixes through each and with the Dynaudio's, you could hear clearly the reverb trails, the sizzle in the cymbals, and everything. Things that I couldn't hear with the Truth's, and the Mackies were right up there in the BM5's. What can I say, I'm buying the Dynaudio BM5's..
It would have been great to get to spend a couple of weeks with both sets of monitors, and got to do some actual tracking, and mixing with them, but for a short days listen, the Dynaudio's seemed like the clear winner of my moolah..
What we auditioned:
Behringer Truth
Mackie HR824
Dynaudio BM5A's
Dynaudio BM6A's
I agree pretty much with the studio owner [ if you read his comments at the link. ] I thought the Truth's sounded like they were muffled. I didn't hear any real improvement when comparing the Truth's to the Mackie's. The Mackie's had more low-end - and a little better separation of instruments, but not by much. And I couldn't justify the $1200+ cost of the Mackie's over the $399 cost of the Truth's.
Next were the BM5A's. Immediately there was a noticable difference. With the 5A's I could easily hear details of the program material that were not at all evident on the Truths or the Mackie's. With the 5A's I could hear all the reverb tails, the top of the snare and cymbals, and overall clear separation of instruments. The bass was tighter but still full.
I think the model numbers Dynaudio gave the 5A's and 6A's is a little confusing – and some people might think the 6A's have 6" woofers and the 5A's would have 5" woofers. Not so. The BM5A's and BM6A's both have 6.89" woofers. 5A's have 50W amps on tweeter and woofer. 6A's have 100W amps. The 6A's have the BM series styling. The 5A's have the AIR series styling.
The 6A's sounded near to the 5A's until we turned up the 6A's louder. That's when the 100W amps showed the 6A's to have more horsepower. But for the small size control room the 5A's more than do the job.
In the end, we thought the 5A's [ also considering price ] were the best tool for the job. At under $900 the 5A's kicked the $1200+ Mackie's to the curb. The owner is buying the 5A's.
One of my pairs of personal monitors are Dynaudio AIR 15's with a Benchmark DAC1. So, I'm used to that $3000+ monitor sound on a daily basis. The 5A's deliver the same type of sound [ clarity, imagery, depth, no ear fatigue ] in a smaller package.
Dan Richards
Sound Pure Pro Audio
(866) 409-3686
Studio Reviews Magazine
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CoolCat
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did a 2nd GC test, back to my "closer to home" GC....where the monkey-setup is. They did have the Dyns hooked up.
the Dyns were my pick, with the RP8 keeping the competition up its ass.
the Dyns are $1,000...the RP8 are $500.
the RP8 have the volume edge. their a Huge Speaker, like the KRK V8.
i could live well with a RP8...but i have had em' over to the house and they need a stand in a small room...maybe 4-5ft away...unless you like air blowing in your face.
the Dyns, just have a sound i like. Thye also seem to be very consistent from quiet to loud. They start blinking the yellow/limit led and soon into red clipping ....these aren't really loud.
I never took a SPL meter to it see how loud they get before clipping led comes on. Surely its over ~85db...the holy grail of volume for mixing.per Herman Munster.
the Dyns are smaller, so they could sit where my BWDM303's are sitting.
and I'll run my RTA on 'em.....but with Ethans traps and some GC Oralex foam...my $150 BW303 are looking pretty flat for a HR studio...<6db....
mainly 3-4db +/- with a low end of 70-60hz. not bad really.
so for $850 would the Dyns be "more flatter"??
thats the goal right? a flat freq response at 85db.....
the Dyns were my pick, with the RP8 keeping the competition up its ass.
the Dyns are $1,000...the RP8 are $500.
the RP8 have the volume edge. their a Huge Speaker, like the KRK V8.
i could live well with a RP8...but i have had em' over to the house and they need a stand in a small room...maybe 4-5ft away...unless you like air blowing in your face.
the Dyns, just have a sound i like. Thye also seem to be very consistent from quiet to loud. They start blinking the yellow/limit led and soon into red clipping ....these aren't really loud.
I never took a SPL meter to it see how loud they get before clipping led comes on. Surely its over ~85db...the holy grail of volume for mixing.per Herman Munster.
the Dyns are smaller, so they could sit where my BWDM303's are sitting.
and I'll run my RTA on 'em.....but with Ethans traps and some GC Oralex foam...my $150 BW303 are looking pretty flat for a HR studio...<6db....
mainly 3-4db +/- with a low end of 70-60hz. not bad really.
so for $850 would the Dyns be "more flatter"??
thats the goal right? a flat freq response at 85db.....
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The goal of monitors is to produce an accurate sound in which all detail and imaging can be heard in order to allow you to make proper adjustments to a mix without fatiguing your ears and while still allowing your mixes to easily translate to other systems.
So far it looks like your tests have shown that the BM5a's hold up well in what you consider to be a good sounding room and a bad sounding room. That seems like a big plus to me
So far it looks like your tests have shown that the BM5a's hold up well in what you consider to be a good sounding room and a bad sounding room. That seems like a big plus to me
