Blues you can use

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Sweet Marguerita

This one took me forever to get right, and was one of the first songs I played for folks here on HR ...

This is version 395.75 ... but eventually, thanks to the players assembled below, I think we worked it out okay.

Stuart Gort on Lead Guitar and Background Vocals
Tjarko Busink on Bass
Frank Basile on Drums
Stan Brown on slide guitar

Hope you like ...

Best,

Kev-
 
I totally dig the recording and tune. A pleasure to listen. Real artful stuff.

One nit :
at 2:13 the end note on the slide, B, plays over the C6/9whatever......the maj7th of that momentary peak chord in the arrangement. The resulting sound softens the impact of the chord. I think it would strike the ball a lot harder if the final note in the slide was a half-step up, C. 'BANG!'

I don't remember hearing another sustained C that could be edited in.
When I heard it the first time, it struck me as anchoring the C in a B-ish tonality.....where you wanted to create a real contrasting, one-off, out of diatonic 'schmack!'. A quick slide up to the C from B would sound effective, too, I think.

Tried giving rep...says I gotta spread it around before you get it again.... :^)

It's a real tiny nit in a fantastic piece.
 
nice tune.

Actually Jeff...the B is the root of the V chord that's being played (in the key of E) and resolves right back to the I.
 
Thanks Jeff ... and MM is correct; but I hear what you're talking about, and I guess I just got used to hearing it that way ... for I hear it, but it doesn't bother me --

It's subtle and you've got great ears for picking it up.

Kev-
 
The bass guitar plays C for the full duration of the measure. The B in the solo is the major7...and the organ, I believe, plays the E...the third of the chord among the voices. With the root established at C by the lowest note in the scrum, the sound of the chord is Cmaj...and there's maybe an F# for the #11, I think, IIRC. And that chord is a diatonic VI of the Key of G...or E minor: a momentary interpolation... to the E- bluesy sound....Aoelian...so it fits. The implied resolution, at least in the bass, is D(7) to E. Or B7#9 to E. The bass decays, or is silent at beat four. And, if I'm hearing it correctly, all the notes of the Cmajor triad are also sounding in the keys during the chord.

It sounds like a Cmaj7#11 [or Cmaj7b5...the usual non-diatonic handling of the IVmaj [key of G]...#11/b5....depending on who you ask]

If the chord above the C bass was C7#9, it'd be a simple chromatic approach to the V alt of E....or a II7 sub.

That's my analysis. Reserve the right to be in error. :^). But there's no getting around the C in the bass guitar, I think!

Anyway, great tune. That part, too.
 
This is really well done and enjoyable to listen to. Nice job Kev.

Sidenote: As someone who knows squat about music theory, I would never have noticed anything odd about that slide note.
 
Knowing the bass player and his peculiar way of paying attention ... I've my doubts he's a half step off ... seriously ... I don't hear it ... and my ears are good.

But I'll ask him out of respect for you.
 
guitar zero said:
This is really well done and enjoyable to listen to. Nice job Kev.

Sidenote: As someone who knows squat about music theory, I would never have noticed anything odd about that slide note.
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I trained for music my whole life, but found it didn't produce as fertile as I wanted.

So I know exactly what Jeff is saying ... and he may be right. But I always ask first ... because as much as I know ... I know the bass player is paying more attention than I do.

.... and I also trust my own ears ... but when those are questioned (because I don't hear it) ... I question.

Jeff may be right ...
 
Just some background ... the bass player is unquestionably one of the most natural musicians I've ever the pleasure of associating with ... but he warned me he doesn't like this style of music.

Yet ... I'm not hearing the challenge here.

Tough, all this correct spelling.
 
There is a C in the bass... but in my book, that doesn't mean it always is a root. But we all know that. Jeff's description sounds like it'd win in a court of law, so I'd go with his opinion :)
 
Ha ... the main argument being is that the musician who played it (who you know) and myself ... don't hear it wrong ... nor does most.

And if there is a note mistake, who cares? We're human. I personally don't want it perfect, I want it felt.

Error only makes any work performed definitely by humans. :)
 
It's not a mistake..and not a wrong chord...it works really well...

But the slide playing the natural 7 interval in that chordofdamoment gives it a wimpier sound. It softens the impact..cuz it's a maj7. They do that. But it's not that 'rule' that drove my comment...it's about what I heard and felt, then examined under the glass to explain why it sounded off to me....and to convey what I heard with clarity...instead of just saying it was strange to my ear.

The first time it hearing it, I had to rewind and listen again..it really didn't sound right to me. Which is why I brought it up. After hearing it several times, it sounds righter....but not as effective as it could be with a stronger note, I thought.

But, like, that's a really small thing. The tune is fantastic...and the playing, too. It was the ONLY thing I could nit, if I were purposefully digging.
 
Very nice, Kev, as with all your other tunes. You always have that touch of class in performance and songrwiting that I totally admire. And the recording's great, too.;)

Joey :)
 
Hey k-dub very nice when it all comes in...the singer's kinda out there in the spotlight at the start but it all comes together very nicely. I like the character of the vocal and the space that it's in. The toms sound good and the organ is sweet as. That's a good one

:)
 
lol@ all this theory dissecting of a blues song.



Sounds fine as is.
 
jeffmaher said:
it's not a mistake..and not a wrong chord...it works really well...

But the slide playing the natural 7 interval in that chordofdamoment gives it a wimpier sound. It softens the impact..cuz it's a maj7. They do that. But it's not that 'rule' that drove my comment...it's about what i heard and felt, then examined under the glass to explain why it sounded off to me....and to convey what i heard with clarity...instead of just saying it was strange to my ear.

The first time it hearing it, i had to rewind and listen again..it really didn't sound right to me. Which is why i brought it up. After hearing it several times, it sounds righter....but not as effective as it could be with a stronger note, i thought.

But, like, that's a really small thing. The tune is fantastic...and the playing, too. It was the only thing i could nit, if i were purposefully digging.
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:) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
joeym said:
Very nice, Kev, as with all your other tunes. You always have that touch of class in performance and songrwiting that I totally admire. And the recording's great, too.;)

Joey :)
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Thank ya kindly, Joey. :)
 
Monkey Allen said:
Hey k-dub very nice when it all comes in...the singer's kinda out there in the spotlight at the start but it all comes together very nicely. I like the character of the vocal and the space that it's in. The toms sound good and the organ is sweet as. That's a good one

:)
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Glad you liked! Thanks for the good words. K-
 
Lt. Bob said:
lol@ all this theory dissecting of a blues song.



Sounds fine as is.
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I don't get it.

K-dub spends all this time getting things exactly right.....it's more than a song played on a stage in live performance lost to memory as the notes play out; the recording is a work of art, durable, and different. That any comment should be dismissed as 'not-applicable', cuz it's 'just a blues song', doesn't compute.

The 'theory' , as I said, didn't spurr the comment: it was the way it hit my ear. The applicable mechanics are only a map of the moment....and allow communication of the reason it was not premium-grade. One note. In one of the most important parts of the tune.

It sounds fine as it is. Yep. It could be made better with a 30-seconds-of-work copy/paste edit in the right place. Yep.

I assumed, I guess, wrongly that, because it was posted, that a 'fresh ears' critique was implied. Nowhere in the OP does it invite one. My bad.
 
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