Blue Screen Of Death!?

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So, here's something funny.... I have the same card as you and recently upgraded my computer to an i7 Quad core. I now get BSOD's *everytime* i boot up. It's basically a completely new build; new mobo, new cpu, new memory, new hard drive, new O/S install, new software install, etc.

I'll start the computer, it'll boot into windows and immediately blue screen itself. I turn it off and back on and then it'll run forever. After using it, I turn it off for the day, next day go to turn it on and BSOD!!

I'm wondering if there is something with the EMU driver that can't handle quad cores because it worked fine when I was using Win7 64bit on a Core2Duo system. It is a beta driver after all. Is that the same driver you are using? 2.30?

I would experiment, but I've got an early morning flight for a business trip and I don't want to go poking around my computer tonight. Maybe you've got time this week to try it for us. Pull the card and remove all the drivers. See if it still BSOD's on you.

Maybe I really don't need this board anymore as I have another interface that works well. Hmmm... what to do...
 
Dood (Doc), I almost just want to send you a new PC, cuz I feel so bad for your problems. But you would likely look at it, and destroy it....

lol! Seriously, what is it with you and computers man? You probably have already lost 5 years off of your lifespan, in stress alone, by fiddling with crap...
 
Blue Sceens of Death can be caused by both software issues (viruses and malware) and hardware issues (drivers, bad RAM). However in my experience they are more often related to hardware & driver problems.

Basic troubleshooting would be to remove as many devices and drive updates as possible, see if the machine starts working, hen add things back in one at a time until it starts blowing up again.
 
jimmys69 said:
Dood (Doc), I almost just want to send you a new PC, cuz I feel so bad for your problems. But you would likely look at it, and destroy it....
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:D

Probably would, while still in the shipping box.....and some folks didn't believe me when I was talking about negative wave aura..... ;)
 
RWhite said:
Blue Sceens of Death can be caused by both software issues (viruses and malware) and hardware issues (drivers, bad RAM). However in my experience they are more often related to hardware & driver problems.

Basic troubleshooting would be to remove as many devices and drive updates as possible, see if the machine starts working, hen add things back in one at a time until it starts blowing up again.
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Pertaining to the individual who said it could just as easily be software/driver related, this is why I said it was a hardware problem (it's just usually hardware, so I figured with Varney taking out soundcards and touching internal components, it was most likely this).
My apologies, the internet isn't exactly perfect for conveying exactly what you mean. xD
 
MrWrenchey said:
Pertaining to the individual who said it could just as easily be software/driver related, this is why I said it was a hardware problem (it's just usually hardware, so I figured with Varney taking out soundcards and touching internal components, it was most likely this).
My apologies, the internet isn't exactly perfect for conveying exactly what you mean. xD
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I don't know if you're talking to Rwhite or me, but no apology is necessary either way.

Just, in the nicest possible way, I didn't wanna see Varney go pulling is HD and taking apart another (previously working) computer to trouble shoot.

I wasn't so much correcting you as suggesting baby steps! :p
 
I'm confused. You're using a quad core for the internet? And it only has 3GB of Ram? My recording and video and animation system has 16 GB of ram and I don't let it ever go near the internet. I think you might find the problem in your add-ons. Log on, go to tools/add ons/extensions and see if you don't have stuff there you might not need. Turn them off one at a time and see if one of them isn't the problem, or disable all of them and turn them back on one at a time. I'm curious if someone else hasn't had this and found the fix. Good Luck,
Rod Norman

Doctor Varney said:
What would you say is the most likely cause? My internet computer, which is quad core AMD Phenom with 3GB RAM & Windows XP Professional blue screens every time I turn it off, after just a little bit of ordinary surfing or office work. I have to keep the power switch on the front depressed for a while to get it to power off or pull the plug. I cannot understand most of what it says on this screen, except "Beginning dump of physical memory". It's the same machine which kept rejecting my E-MU sound card, which works fine in other systems. Could this be a RAM failure? I'm rather concerned, because this is my highest specced system so far and was supposed to be 'the nuts'. Yet it vomits and has a blue fit, after a few menial tasks. :(
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Chili: Your problem sounds definitely hardware. You likely have a bad bus connection, or bad memory...not uncommon in new builds anymore, because they don't do burn-in on new computers anymore. :spank: When I built computers for a living, it was SOP to let them run 48 hrs to make sure no parts failed. But BSOD at boot (without actually coming into Windows) is usually memory or MB issue. If the machine boots fine without the card, but fails with the card it can still be either prob, but my money would be on a bad bus connection in the slot you're using. Over time, even if you have another slot that works, that problem will cause random start-up BSODs, and you'll wish you'd replaced the MB.

OP: When a system runs perfectly and fails to shut down, the problem is almost 100% software. That's good news. Try doing a system restore and refresh your system to 100% factory software. Then upgrade your AV (THIS IS FIRST) After anti-virus is up to date and running great, start installing whatever software and drivers you need. After each software install, be sure to reboot. Be sure (on XP) that when you are installing nothing else is running. I know that sounds funny, but (especially with drivers) programs running in the background can affect your installs.

We had a system that we played the SIMS 3 on and it gave us fits. I tried restore and then installed ALL the expansions and stuff packs only to find that it had the same problems. Went back and installed one at a time and rebooted between and never had a problem. Just one of the little quirks with XP. My 7 systems never have problems with multiple installs at the same time...even simultaneous. But, of course, 7 has a whole host of other problems, not the least of which is incapacitating multiple audio outputs :facepalm:
 
Answer - Your page file is not calculated correctly

Just type calculate page file xp into google and set it. There is a formula. think its 1.5 times your RAM, but get it right or your machine will be screwed.

Beyond that you wont get a blue screen of death.

/if you use windows 7 the page file is best set to automatic as microsofts calculation is better than in xp.

NB nobody else here knows hat they are talking about.

This is not a hardware issue. I fix PC's for a living and am more qualified than anyone else here.
 
Redlad_ said:
Just type calculate page file xp into google and set it. There is a formula. think its 1.5 times your RAM, but get it right or your machine will be screwed.

Beyond that you wont get a blue screen of death.

/if you use windows 7 the page file is best set to automatic as microsofts calculation is better than in xp.

NB nobody else here knows hat they are talking about.

This is not a hardware issue. I fix PC's for a living and am more qualified than anyone else here.
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Dude, I've been working with PCs full time since the 1980s and that statement is complete BS. Just saying... :)
 
BroKen_H said:
But BSOD at boot (without actually coming into Windows) is usually memory or MB issue. If the machine boots fine without the card, but fails with the card it can still be either prob, but my money would be on a bad bus connection in the slot you're using. Over time, even if you have another slot that works, that problem will cause random start-up BSODs, and you'll wish you'd replaced the MB.
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All of this.
 
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MrWrenchey said:
All of this.
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The above is completely true, but he is not getting the issue at startup. Instead he is getting it during non intensive tasks while the machine is running. I have fixed this issue for so many peoples machines. This is an easy fix and will not even take you an hour and will cost nothing to implement.

In relation to the guy who says the page file is not used since win9x thats completely not true, as I stated even in vista, win7 and 8 its used. The only time it can be left unused or deleted is when you have over 4 GB Physical RAM and are running Vista, and you really dont want to be using Vista.

For these people here spending their lives on forums they dont have a clue, and on top of that. this is not even a PC forum its a home recording forum. Its like reading reviews in What Hi-Fi and purchasing based on what they say, instead of getting frequency response charts and listening for yourself. I spotted this in a newsletter and decided to post. I dont waste my time on forums, hence why this is the first time I have posted since I joined donkeys years ago.

I stand by my advise, and advise the original poster to do what im saying, as his machine is a good machine. I have a similar machine at home too, but run win 7 as its way better than xp to be honest. I also have 16GB RAM.

I had this exact problem myself just after XP came out, and I did this fix and never got a BSOD on my machine again. My old P4 3.2GHz, which still runs, but I dont use it anymore.

If you wanna make a hardware change get an extra stick of RAM. 4GB RAM is dirt cheap. and set your page file correctly in XP. Or else switch to win 7 and let it handle your pagefile.

NB if you are changing your RAM set your pagefile back to automatic, reboot, then shutdown before installing the new ram. Then reboot, and set the page file to the new figure again.

Im honestly not wasting your time here, and this will work, based onthe symptoms you are describing.

Im qualified in Comptia A+, N+, City & Guilds in Advanced Sound Engineering and have experience working in IT departments in HP, Banks, and Telecomms companies. I also have worked as a Freelance Sound Engineer for BBC, Sky, UTV, ITV, RTE, Setanta, and TV5.

And I have been using PC's since 1984/1985 IBM PC. Prior to that I was using a Sharp MZ700 which was a programable tape computer.
 
Redlad_ said:
The above is completely true, but he is not getting the issue at startup. Instead he is getting it during non intensive tasks while the machine is running. I have fixed this issue for so many peoples machines. This is an easy fix and will not even take you an hour and will cost nothing to implement.

In relation to the guy who says the page file is not used since win9x thats completely not true, as I stated even in vista, win7 and 8 its used. The only time it can be left unused or deleted is when you have over 4 GB Physical RAM and are running Vista, and you really dont want to be using Vista.

For these people here spending their lives on forums they dont have a clue, and on top of that. this is not even a PC forum its a home recording forum. Its like reading reviews in What Hi-Fi and purchasing based on what they say, instead of getting frequency response charts and listening for yourself. I spotted this in a newsletter and decided to post. I dont waste my time on forums, hence why this is the first time I have posted since I joined donkeys years ago.

I stand by my advise, and advise the original poster to do what im saying, as his machine is a good machine. I have a similar machine at home too, but run win 7 as its way better than xp to be honest. I also have 16GB RAM.

I had this exact problem myself just after XP came out, and I did this fix and never got a BSOD on my machine again. My old P4 3.2GHz, which still runs, but I dont use it anymore.

If you wanna make a hardware change get an extra stick of RAM. 4GB RAM is dirt cheap. and set your page file correctly in XP. Or else switch to win 7 and let it handle your pagefile.

NB if you are changing your RAM set your pagefile back to automatic, reboot, then shutdown before installing the new ram. Then reboot, and set the page file to the new figure again.

Im honestly not wasting your time here, and this will work, based onthe symptoms you are describing.

Im qualified in Comptia A+, N+, City & Guilds in Advanced Sound Engineering and have experience working in IT departments in HP, Banks, and Telecomms companies. I also have worked as a Freelance Sound Engineer for BBC, Sky, UTV, ITV, RTE, Setanta, and TV5.

And I have been using PC's since 1984/1985 IBM PC. Prior to that I was using a Sharp MZ700 which was a programable tape computer.
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Hey, pompous dumb dumb, he said he fixed the problem and it was something wrong with his RAM. That's hardware. I don't care what you work on for a living, it sounds to me like you're wrong. Stop being so rude, alright? You're new here and your last two posts have come off rather wankish. Not a good way to start.
 
MrWrenchey said:
Hey, pompous dumb dumb, he said he fixed the problem and it was something wrong with his RAM. That's hardware. I don't care what you work on for a living, it sounds to me like you're wrong. Stop being so rude, alright? You're new here and your last two posts have come off rather wankish. Not a good way to start.
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Im sorry, when did I join? and when did you join????

Pompus Dumbdumb wow what a creative insult. Did you do your masters in English.

The problems not fixed, bet it happens again.
 
Redlad_ said:
Im sorry, when did I join? and when did you join????
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My apologies, simply glanced at the Bold text under your name that said "New Member."
You just haven't given any useful information in the last 12 years, as your last 3 posts of your 4 were apparently on this thread.
 
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