BLA mod for M-audio fw1814 which one and is it worth it?

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looking at getting my fw1814 modded by BLA. they offer two versions. I mainly record female hip hop vocals only what is anyones opinion of the mod choices for the fw1814

Overview
The FW1814 is M-Audio’s mid-level firewire interface. Like several of its Digidesign cousins, it uses AKM conversion. In some aspects, it has less dynamic range than its Mbox counterparts, but in some aspects it has more. Line level A/D conversion is handled by the AK5381, which has a paltry 106dB dynamic range. Mic input D/R is 114dB, which is actually greater than the 002 and the Mbox. DAC output sits at roughly 112dB, which is comparable to the MOTU 896HD and Traveler. Analog stages have fairly limited headroom (roughly 9-10dB), and consist of NJM4580’s and LVM722 opamps, which we find to be slow and dull sounding.

Clocking and clock management are handled via an NSK 24.576mhz crystal oscillator and a BridgeCo DM1500. Areas of concern that arise are the amount of phase noise from the oscillator itself and the accumulation of phase shift, noise, and ringing as the clock signal is divided and then propagated throughout the FW1814. All of these things contribute dramatically to poor quality conversion.

Solutions
One primary limitation of small-format interfaces such as the FW1814 is the severe lack of headroom. This device has about 9dB of headroom. That's not much to work with, and one often discovers that it's easy to make the mic and line preamps on this interface clip. We've not only added improvements to the existing modifications we offer for this device, we've also developed a way to increase its analog stage headroom by almost 30dB! That's an enormous improvement, and can help give your small-format interface the big sound normally associated with more expensive multi-channel converters.

When approaching the FW1814, we wanted first of all to clean up the quality of the audio signal as it heads into and comes out of the conversion process. We achieved this by using an amplifier with roughly half the noise, twenty times the bandwidth, and forty times the speed of the existing circuit. By doing this, we not only reduce noise, we improve the ability of the circuit to provide a clean, detailed signal.

The second area we wanted to address is, of course, the internal clock. We knew from our experiments with clock circuitry and propagation that we would need some way to limit oscillator jitter and noise down to the theoretical minimum, so we've developed an internal clock for the 1814 that utilizes a proprietary method that limits jitter at the clock source to 3-4 picoseconds.

What's really cool is that we have developed methods to take the 1814 even further. By implementing the same approaches to converter decoupling that we offer in our 002 modification, we can reduce distortion within the conversion process itself. And by utilizing a higher power supply voltage for the analog stage, we can increase headroom by almost 30dB!

Pricing
Price is $275 for the basic package, which covers analog stages and internal clock.

Price is $395 for the Tweak Head modification, which includes all analog stages, our proprietary converter decoupling, internal clock, and internal analog stage power supply.
 
My opinion is that all those mods sound like throwing good money after bad. Black Lion mods on older interfaces with crappy sound quality make a bit more sense, but the FW1814? That just doesn't make sense to me.

The FW1814 sounds reasonably clean in my experience. I'm not hearing any of the severe smearing associated with significant jitter. Maybe it's not perfect, but it is quite good---good enough that I doubt you'll get an audible improvement by changing the clock. Feel free to set up a double-blind A/B test to prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

As for the headroom, I never had a single problem with my FW1814 clipping. You shouldn't need much headroom on the line inputs because if you're feeding in input at too hot a level, you're screwed anyway when it hits the A/D. It's a lot easier to lower the bloody input level to something sane than to rewire the line drivers, and I can't imagine why anyone would do such a mod. Maybe on the preamps, but even then, that's what pads are for.

The op amp replacement doesn't make much more sense, either, as they don't give any real numbers there. If it is a twentieth the noise, are we talking about lowering the noise floor from being -45 dB below the signal level to -58 dB (audible) or are we talking about the difference between -150 dB and -163 dB (below the detection threshold of the DAC)? There is a point at which the noise doesn't matter, and on a line driver worth its weight in manure, I'd expect the specifications to be well beyond the point at which improvements will not result in any audible difference. The only place it would make sense is on the pres, and even then, an external pre is far more useful since it isn't tied permanently to the interface.

The FW1814 is cranky in a lot of ways, but the audio quality isn't one of them, in my experience. That said, it's sort of a mid-range device in terms of overall quality. My suspicion is that most folks with a FW1814 are probably small studios, and thus there are probably sizable holes in their mic locker, preamps, etc. The money for this mod can almost certainly be better spent fixing those problems rather than getting B.L. mods to what will still just be a slightly cleaner mid-range piece of recording gear.

Instead of spending money on a mod like this, spend the money on a couple of adjustable 30dB pads for miking drums and a Lundahl-modified Shinybox ribbon or two. It will make a much bigger difference in your sound, IMHO. If you're going to mod something, the preamps probably have at least one electrolytic somewhere in the signal path. Replace those with film or poly caps and you've done all the modding that I think would be useful.

Upgrading converters and the analog section on a FW1814 is like putting a turbocharger and racing stripes on your Pinto when your tires are bald, the paint is falling off, and the fuel tank's on fire. :D
 
had friend come over and he had a sound engineer friend come with him. what he done with my fw1814,dmp3,mxl67i, and digi compressor plug was awesome. after picking his brain for a couple of hours I realize that it was not the equipment but the user "me" that was the problem. I now understand the importance of learning the theory behind eq,comp,gates,limiters,etc. he said my set up was perfectly fine for what I do. as far as the bla mod, he said if anything get a uad card or save up and get a better mic.
 
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