Big Distorted Guitars

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I am trying to achieve a similar guitar sound to the one in the video below:

SECRETS - "Ass Back Home" Lyric Video (Punk Goes Pop 5) - YouTube

My current setup is a Gibson Les Paul studio into JCM2000 miced with 1 SM57 into logic I am kind of close but just can't seem to get the guitars sounding as thick and in your face as they do in the video

here is what i have got so far its just a short clip:

Guitar by chris_alker on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds

and this is another track i have been working on:

pop punk demo by chris_alker on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds
 
This thread should help you get your 10 posts so you can create links.

I can't listen to these at work so I'll try to remember to check them out later when I'm at home.
 
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Yeah but better mic placement will yield cleaner tracks.
 
Good point Greg! I didn't know my Nikes had such an impact when recording guitars!
 
Thickness...

I did go to Soundcloud and checked out some of your tracks. I've listened to "Pop Punk Demo" as well as "Ass Back Home". Your track sounds good. There are a few things that could make your guitars thicker. The first and foremost is to start with great source material. Before you start EQing and compressing stuff, get a track that stands up on it's own. Bill Laswell said "If you want big thick distorted guitars, record big thick recorded guitars." Your reverb is working against you. Remember that reverb makes sounds appear distant. You don't want too much of that if you're going for an "in your face" sound. Doubling is very important also. Tripleling is even more important and quadrupling is even more important than that. I think you're beginning to see the point here. One thing: when layering, make sure that your phasing is correct. There are a number of other pointers i could share with you. Best would be if you would check out my Fiverr gig here: Trkkazulu will show you how to do anything in logic pro for $5, only on fiverr.com I do custom screencasts demonstrating production techiniques in Logic Pro. I might be able to help you get closer to what you're looking for.

I hope this helps. Be well and keep rocking.
 
trkkazulu said:
The first and foremost is to start with great source material. Before you start EQing and compressing stuff, get a track that stands up on it's own. Bill Laswell said "If you want big thick distorted guitars, record big thick recorded guitars."
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Absolutely.

Your reverb is working against you. Remember that reverb makes sounds appear distant. You don't want too much of that if you're going for an "in your face" sound.
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Yes

Doubling is very important also. Tripleling is even more important and quadrupling is even more important than that.
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Disagree. You don't have to quadruple guitar tracks. Doubling is more than enough. If you're using the right tone and good tracking techniques, there's no need to quadruple a guitar track just to make it "thick".


Best would be if you would check out my Fiverr gig here: Trkkazulu will show you how to do anything in logic pro for $5, only on fiverr.com I do custom screencasts demonstrating production techiniques in Logic Pro. I might be able to help you get closer to what you're looking for.
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Lol. Lame.
 
trkkazulu said:
I did go to Soundcloud and checked out some of your tracks. I've listened to "Pop Punk Demo" as well as "Ass Back Home". Your track sounds good. There are a few things that could make your guitars thicker. The first and foremost is to start with great source material. Before you start EQing and compressing stuff, get a track that stands up on it's own. Bill Laswell said "If you want big thick distorted guitars, record big thick recorded guitars." Your reverb is working against you. Remember that reverb makes sounds appear distant. You don't want too much of that if you're going for an "in your face" sound. Doubling is very important also. Tripleling is even more important and quadrupling is even more important than that. I think you're beginning to see the point here. One thing: when layering, make sure that your phasing is correct. There are a number of other pointers i could share with you. Best would be if you would check out my Fiverr gig here: Trkkazulu will show you how to do anything in logic pro for $5, only on fiverr.com I do custom screencasts demonstrating production techiniques in Logic Pro. I might be able to help you get closer to what you're looking for.

I hope this helps. Be well and keep rocking.
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Ignore the last part - you can get all the help you need for free on this forum - and you can get great musicians to contribute recorded parts to your track (as advertised in his/her signature) for free here too (probably played and recorded better, I would guess).
 
Often the room has a big impact on the clarity and impact of the guitars if there are spectral inconsistencies, standing waves or resonances. This can create dips and bumps the captured response of the sound.

Unfortunately these issues are hard to remedy. The best approach I've found is to isolate the problem frequencies and use a dynamic EQ to attenuate them.

Another thing is that a lot of big guitars are otherwise thin sounding when you mute the bass. A good bass sound contributes immensely to the size of the guitars. If the timing of bass is right with the kick drum the impact is even bigger.

Cheers :)
 
$4?! Everything's getting expensive these days! Time was, you could come to this forum, and Greg would tell you that you suck for free.
 
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