better idea for my set-up????

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currently i have a TASCAM interface that allows 8 channels of simultaneous recording. I want to up grade my mixer and i found this mackie oynx

MIXER

and then after reading up, i realized i would want to use the direct out option.. which means i would have to purchase the I/O FireWire card

CARD

Then i realized this would be completely eliminating the purpose of my current TASCAM interface... who thinks that this is a better way of setting up my studio other than the way i have it now?
 
You might as well upgrade. Those ONYX pres will kill the Behringer you have now, and you will still get the inputs you have now.
 
thank you for the input ... anyone else


i was actually looking again ... i dont think i would need the firewire card to use the direct outs. But what kind of PCI card do i need to put in my computer that will transfer the signal from the parralell port to my computer?
 
Like you said, I don't think you need the FireWire card to use the Onyx's direct outs. It should bring up the direct outs on a 25 pin connector. You'd simply need a cable that goes from 25-pin on one end to eight TRS on the other. Plug those into your interface's line inputs.

The output on the Onyx isn't a parallel port. It's simply 8 channels on one cable (3 conducters per channel by 8 channels is 24 conductors total; the output is a 25 pin, or conductor, output).
 
aaaaaaaa ok thank you very much .. that clears things up

... i think i need to save some money lol
 
nowwwwwwwww where to find that cable

ive only been looking for 5 minutes now and i can already tell its gonna be tough to find
 
It uses the Tascam standard pin-out. Just search for DB-25 TRS tascam and you should be able to find something.

Here is one made with Mogami and Neutrik connectors, for a pretty good price. You could also get a quote on one from Xstatic here on the board. Just remember its a DB 25 connector, Tascam standard pinout, with TRS on the fan end (assuming your interface has TRS for the line inputs).
 
oh yeah that did the trick ... wow those are expensive !

i wonder how hard it is to make one

thanks again
 
Probably not necessarily difficult to make, but time consuming for sure. I personally don't think I would be comfortable doing the DB-25 connector.

Neutrik TRS jacks are nearly $3 apiece. That's just under $24 right there. Mogami 8-channel snake cable is $2.50 a foot, so another $18. That's a third of the cost it would be to you, excluding the DB-25 connector and whatever your time is worth to you, not to mention that it should have high-quality soldering and come with a warranty. Better just to buy, if you ask me.
 
yeah i would have no idea how to put that one together anyways
 
I use Tascam DA-38s with a Yamaha analog mixer for all my recording, and I use those 25-Pin snakes for everything! You can get em pretty cheap on bhphotovideo.com:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...s&Q=&sku=160763&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

You'll want to make sure the inputs on your mixer are balanced, and it would probably also be good that those channels have pad switches - I know when I run the output of the DA-38s out to the Yamaha, the input absolutely needs the pad switches turned on to cut the input signal down to the same level the DA-38 is putting out (since the DSub output of the 38 is +4db... otherwise you would want to get a snake that runs 8 RCA jacks to 8 1/4" TS jacks, but that never worked well for me... I'll have to try it out again).

Not sure whether you want to mix in the analog realm or on computer. What Tascam do you have? Is it in fact a 38 or x8 of some type?
 
the tascam interface is the FW-1804

the mixer i am looking at has the direct outs balenced .. so no problem there

thats is much cheaper
 
ok after reading and researching more .. i found if i spend a little extra i can get a 24 channel onyx and i was wondering if it would be a better choice to go with the 24 rather than the 16

the 24 has a built in limiter .. thats kinda cool

hang on ill get some links
 
Well, that looks cool, but

it doesn't look like it has any a/d conversion of its own, so doesn't that mean you'll still only have 8 inputs (through your Tascam)?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice, you could use the extra channels for submixing drums, but it just seems like it might be overkill in the wrong area.

I would think your money might be better spent getting a couple of Delta 1010s and a nice big Yamaha mixer, but that's just my best guess.

Anyone agree or disagree with me?
 
notCardio said:
it doesn't look like it has any a/d conversion of its own, so doesn't that mean you'll still only have 8 inputs (through your Tascam)?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice, you could use the extra channels for submixing drums, but it just seems like it might be overkill in the wrong area.

I would think your money might be better spent getting a couple of Delta 1010s and a nice big Yamaha mixer, but that's just my best guess.

Anyone agree or disagree with me?
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well my tascam has 8 analog ins

so i would use the 4 subgroups and then 4 of the directouts

even though the direct outs only have the DB-25 connectors we found a cable that will work
 
OK, I thought you were wanting to get more than 8 simultaneous channels.
 
i suppose that would be nice but thats a big upgrade.. i really like what ive heard about the onyx pres
 
OK, one last thing and then I'll drop it

The Mackie you're looking at is $1600. 24 channels mixed down to 8 inputs.

Two Delta 1010s ( 2 x $400 ) + 16 Mackie Onyx ( less than $800 )

= $1600 for 16 channels with 16 inputs.

The first scenario might be better for live recording of HUGE groups of people, but for anything else I think it would be preferable to have more recording inputs as opposed to more mixing inputs.

And you'd still have your Onyx pres, although I do think you'll find mixed reviews on those, too.
 
notCardio said:
The Mackie you're looking at is $1600. 24 channels mixed down to 8 inputs.

Two Delta 1010s ( 2 x $400 ) + 16 Mackie Onyx ( less than $800 )

= $1600 for 16 channels with 16 inputs.

The first scenario might be better for live recording of HUGE groups of people, but for anything else I think it would be preferable to have more recording inputs as opposed to more mixing inputs.

And you'd still have your Onyx pres, although I do think you'll find mixed reviews on those, too.
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yeah that is a good idea .. i dont know what im gonna do yet. 16 recording inputs is pretty nice
 
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