Better Days

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Good tune!

Acoustic sound is great... I won't mention it's out of time since a bunch of people already said that..:D

Sounds evenly out of time throughout the song, so like you said it was probably just a latency issue..

I love the drum loop thing... It's great!!!... Good voice too man!!

Joe
 
oh yeah, i forgot to mention the drum loop in the beginning. i liked that :).
 
beezelbubba -- thanks for listening man

Chris -- get working on your DMP3 tune

erichenryus -- it's actually in standard tuning, but every chord i used was voiced with the same two notes on the B and E stings....the notes being D and G, thus it kind of sounds like an odd tuning.....the dylan comparison is suprising but very complementary, as i love his music, but have never thought of myself as sounding like him.......thanks for listening

sluice -- thanks for listening.......yeah, the singing headphone mix is something that is still plaguing my vocals......it happens every time too........i really need to get a good method down

VOX -- thanks for listening.........after messing around, i'm pretty sure it's mainly a latency issue, but i don't know exactly how to fix that....i've been messing around w/ settings and stuff, hopefully i can come up with something.......

thanks guys, i hope to have a remix/retracked version up later tonight
 
powderfinger said:
VOX -- thanks for listening.........after messing around, i'm pretty sure it's mainly a latency issue, but i don't know exactly how to fix that....i've been messing around w/ settings and stuff, hopefully i can come up with something.......
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Easy... Just grab the guitar audio track that you have recorded and slip it towards the begining of the song a few miliseconds...

Don't use snap to grid or anything, use your ear and drag by hand with the mouse..

It's out of time steadily enough right through, that it should line up everywhere..

Good Luck.. Let us know how it goes..

Joe
 
Actually... I like that lead in percussion a bunch...

some timing problems (probably already covered)... guitars sound good....nice & full... the trashy sounding bongos are very cool, but that other stuff might be distracting... matter of taste.

Nice song. It's good to hear anything by you. You'll be another "Erland" before too long if you keep going :)

You've never missed any of my tunes man... I appreciate that :) A very cool clinic member you are, p.f.


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Sounds great Drew!
The guitar sounds very sweet and full.
What was that backround strumming,almost sounds like a mandolin,nice touch!

I really dig your voice as always!

Music and lyrics were very good,a well written song,no doubt about it!:D

If I can offer some little advice,redo the harmonies.
It's such a good song,it'll be worth it.
Mabey do one as a double and pan them closer to center,they might blend better.
JMHOP

Great tune man,I really enjoyed it,thanks,
Pete
 
VOX -- i actually read your latest post after i already re-tracked the acoustic.......oh well, i think it's better now that i got the latency down a bit

Chad -- thanks for listening. you're always a huge help, so i appreciate the kind words

Pete -- that mandolin sounding instrument is actually my guitar....i used to have a mando (traded it for a bass) and i'm playing the guit the same say i used to play the mandolin.....i added some flange to it too.......also, i retracked some of the harmony vocals and pulled them in more towards the center, let me know what you think if you get a chance........


So...my second mix is up.....here's what i've done

1) retracked the main guitar...and hopefully helped most of the timing/latency issues from before

2) mixed and matched the chorus vocals for better pitch

3) retracked the harmonies near the second chorus, and pulled them in for a tighter feel

that's basically it.......didn't change too much, but the changes were fairly significant, because i think it sounds much tighter in performance than it did before........let me know what you guys think of the changes............thanks

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1642&alid=154
 
Sounds much better Drew!

The only thing I'd say is kill the really high harmonies and pan the other one center with the lead,or close.

It's not so much that the high harmonies are bad,it's that your lead vox is soooo good,the high ones take away from it.
Just trying to help,hope it's cool.:)

Pete
 
Very nice. Guitar sounds great. Good vox, good recording, good mix.

This goes in the keepers folder ;) :D

Excellent job!
 
I know I've told you this before, but I love the way you jump on a song once you start getting feedback. I mean, you usually post something that's got more than one or 2 rough edges, then you see what sticks to the wall, take out the shit that doesn't...remix. YESSSS!!!

I've still got a couple of things to piss you off and drive you nuts:

1. When you go into "ambience" modeat the end of the tune, I'd turn the flanger off quicker if you can still do that. I'm hearing a flange on your shirt, LOL.

Also, it's really only at the very very beginning that the timing is really noticeable to me...I mean, the bongos are cool, and then the bass and the gits just come in all weird at :10 seconds, and it stays screwed up until about :13 seconds in. Actually, it might toally fix it if you just brought the bass in a hair later. Splice that sucker and move it over to the right a bit. :D

Anyway, this sounds much more like a finished product, so I guess it almost is, eh?

I'm glad you decided to record this.

[edit] Good decision on killing that high part...I'm listening to ver. 1 and ver3 (or 4?) side by side. yes, i think Pete steered you in the right direction there.

You obviously retracked some of the backups somewhere along the line, b/c they're much better in the second chorus.

The reason I'm posting is to offer a suggestion about the backups. When you have 3 vocal parts going, you do what I do, which is split the 2 bg vox left and right somewhat. But it sounds like when you have one bg vocal, you're just centering it...which is okay, but if you wanna' give it even more separation, try making a copy of it, panning one left 30, one right 30, and offset the two parts by 25 or 30 milliseconds. You know, the old "fake stereo" guitar trick. It's adds a natural chorus to the bg vox, and I think they sound more like "background" vox when I do that.

These backups are totally cool, btw...I'm not saying you need to do that for this tune...just something to keep in mind; and I didn't mean to insult you if you already do this...LOL.

Later
 
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Chris -- thanks for listening again.........i'll see if there's anything i can do about that intro part........i'm also going to see how that backup stereo thing works......i've heard people talk about using it, but i've never actually tried it.........definitely gonna try that.....thanks
 
Vocals sound really great Drew!
I like Chris's idea though,I have to try that.

I dig the laidback feeling of this song,your voice fits it well.
Cool hook btw!
You did a great job of filling out the song with just a couple of instruments,nice mixing!

Pretty cool to see this progressing,at lightining speed!haha

Thanks,
Pete
 
Thats some nice recording. It sounds natural and not so processed. Good song too.
 
Nice

That little trick did help.

/Jagular files away trick in back of mind for next project :D

Like it a bunch
 
Toki987 -- thanks for the listen. much appreciated....

Jagular -- thanks for listening again.......i apprectiate the feedback

Muze -- I pm'd you back.......thanks again for all the help on this one

Sabbath -- i read about the freezing and pipes and shit on another thread, so you got things to take care of...thanks for checking in though
 
pfinger - I listened to what I think was mix 4. Didn't listen to any of the first three. Here's my take:

First off, I like the song - A LOT!! Second off, I like the sound you got from the acoustic - A LOT! Third, I like the percussion intro.

So far, it seems I'm pretty much in agreement with what everyone else has said. Those are the real strong points of the song.

Negatives - the percussion got monotonous after awhile. You need some changes going on somewhere in the song. Also, I still hear timing issues with the guitar stumming and the percussion. However, you don't ever seem to lose it entirely, so I'm guessing that is how you're hearing it.

Harmonies are a little loose, and there's some intonation problems; however, I think both of these things fit your style, and I wouldn't necessarily change them.

I hope this doesn't come off more negative than I intended. I wouldn't spend this much time critiquing a song I hated. There's a lot of good stuff here. I would stick with this one, as I think you can make it a real winner.

Mike
 
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