Best pedal for a solid state half stack

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Everybody that I know that bought a 5150, and bragged about how great it sounded, ended up putting it up for sale within a year.
 
I don't know if this was mentioned or not...

But there was a recent thread about high wattage amps. Is your buddy going to be playing huge live venues? Even so he would prolly have a PA to mic into. If he is afraid of spending so much money, then why get a half stack? Is he going to be playin mainly in his bedroom? Chances are he won't get that stack cranked to the sweet spot at all, at least not with neighbors. My suggestion is to buy a combo amp. There are some awesome combos to be had at cheaper prices than stacks. You can get the 6505 Peavey you were talking about in a combo on ebay for about $800 right now. This gives you a great amp and the speakers incluced. And the 60W will be more than enough. Tube amps are a hella lot louder than solid state and I really don't see the need to buy a high wattage stack unless it's solid state.
I went the wrong way three years ago and instead of buying a decent tube combo I bought a Crate Halfstack because I thought I would need the wattage. Well after playing many tube amps now I have decided to get rid of my Crate and finally take a smart step up to a tube combo. Don't make the same initial mistake I did. Just something to think about
James
 
i definitely hear you, I just think he wants the "sex appeal" of an actual stack, he will be playing live shows, but yea its miced anyway and wont be cranked...hell also be playing in band practice, but im sure your right and he could easily pump out plenty of power with a combo, ill let him know of your suggestion!:)
 
Toker41 said:
Everybody that I know that bought a 5150, and bragged about how great it sounded, ended up putting it up for sale within a year.
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It's certainly not my favorite sound, but I've heard a lot of bands get REALLY good sounds out of those things, particularly the whole Gothenburg metal scene, which basically is what you get if you toss the natural minor scale, a keyboard, and a 5150 in a blender on high for a minute or two... :p

Likewise, Devin Townsend got some pretty phenominal sounds out of one for years. He's since switched to a modded Recto, but evidently still uses a 5150 as his go-to lead amp.
 
Just to comment On my most recent Amp purchase

I bought a Crate V33H and the matching 212 cab which I paid just under 3 hun for the whole package new from American Musical and this thing really rocks out
but I don't think it is available any longer but if you can find one it is WELL WORTH what you will pay for it.
I suspect that crate shot their selves in the foot by manufacturing V33 and V100 amps by offering them to the public at such a low price they could not sell their higher priced amps so they discontinued them. that is my thoughts anyway.

this little amp gets loud and has very good clean channel and a very good dirty channel also but if you have hot wound pickups you will have to regulate your volume pot on the guitar in order to keep it from feeding back.
but once you learn and master how to manipulate the amp you can get really incredible tones out of it from a gritty overdriven tone to all out metal distortion.
I am planning on getting the 412 matching cab which a 412 and a 212 should be more than plenty of drivers for this amp.
BTW this is my sons amp and he plays hardcore Christan Metal Screamo stuff so the presence of an amp on stage adds to their "Look":rolleyes:
well ya know Been there done that:D

the whole point of me posting this is I know without a doubt you don't have to spend a thousand bucks to get the desired tone you want nor does it cost a fortune for a good tube amp.
 
Tadpui said:
Build a fake stack and put your mic'd low-wattage tube amp behind it :)
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lolz

me and my friend went to the store today, and they actually had an amp we were looking at...the line 6 hd100...boy was he glad he tried that thing out...it sounds exactly like a 30watt line 6 combo he used to have...deffinatly not worth it.

They said theyd have the bugera 333xl in the next couple days cause someone just bought one, so we might go try that out soon..

He said as much as that carvin looks super sick and weve heard clips that sound great, he just doesnt think he needs somethin that good, he wants a cab (or he said MAYBE hed go for a combo) and a head for $800ish together

..so once again back to the drawing board =[ now hes looking at

B-52 AT100 $600
Bugera 6262 $550
Bugera 333xl $600
Peavey Valveking $550
Still keepin an eye out for used 5150s and stuff in the area
 
Everybody said:
lolz

me and my friend went to the store today, and they actually had an amp we were looking at...the line 6 hd100...boy was he glad he tried that thing out...it sounds exactly like a 30watt line 6 combo he used to have...deffinatly not worth it.

They said theyd have the bugera 333xl in the next couple days cause someone just bought one, so we might go try that out soon..

He said as much as that carvin looks super sick and weve heard clips that sound great, he just doesnt think he needs somethin that good, he wants a cab (or he said MAYBE hed go for a combo) and a head for $800ish together

..so once again back to the drawing board =[ now hes looking at

B-52 AT100 $600
Bugera 6262 $550
Bugera 333xl $600
Peavey Valveking $550
Still keepin an eye out for used 5150s and stuff in the area
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His price range makes it VERY tough to find a half stack.

The Bugera stuff is Behringer's line of knockoff Peavey clones. The 6262 is a 5150 clone, and the 333xl is based off the XXX. Considering what used 5150's go for (it's not uncommon to find a head for $500) and considering the early ones were reputed to have some major reliability issues, I'd say just keep your eyes open for the real thing on the secondhand market.

Also worth a look - if he'll consider used combos, $800 REALLY opens up his options. A few of my favorite amps fall in that range - Mesa's F-30, Nomad-45 (I owned one for years and still swear it's one of the most versatile amps in their lineup. Still do, technically, but a guy picks it up in a few weeks), and MAYBE a Rectoverb if he gets lucky all come to mind. Elsewhere, if it's a sound he digs I actually kind of liked the Marshal DSL-401, and I'm not normally huge on marshalls.
 
yea his pricerange is $800 for both a cab and head, rather than just a head.

so a combo for $800 could work if he likes it, ill check out those ones you mentioned for sure.:)

yea i noticed the bugera stuff being ripoffs haha, but eventually a lot of stuff becomes ripoffs (though this one is very blantant lol)...but if it sounds good for the price i dont see why not...i also heard about the reliability and that does suck really bad...but at least its under warranty for 2 years......were gonna go check the 333xl out tho first hand and see if its even what he wants.

keep in mind people that havent read any other posts that this amp will be soley for metal/death metal/subgenre/deathcore/subgenre..which i guess is clasified as lots of gain and no mids? haha
 
$800 narrows down the choices a bit. My honest opinion is that you are going from "great" to "good" tone, unless you go used. I would still search Craigslist for a cab in the range of $100 to $150. Make the focus on the head. A road worn cabinet is sexier, anyway:D.

Which ever amp you decide on, I suggest used. Much bigger bang for the buck. Then, at least when he does resell it in the not too distant future (and trust me...he will), he won't take such a big hit. I'd put a "Wanted" add on Craigslist in the locals. Avoid shipping cost, and gives you the advantage of trying it before you pay, unlike Ebay.

Also, I'd stay away from the Line6 stuff. It has it's place, but for the most part...it's all weak when it comes to metal. However, by all means, check it out, because, although you are getting some good technical advise, all you are really getting here is a bunch of opinions when it comes to tone.

Don't rush it. Take your time, and trying as many as you can plug into.
 
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Everybody said:
keep in mind people that havent read any other posts that this amp will be soley for metal/death metal/subgenre/deathcore/subgenre..which i guess is clasified as lots of gain and no mids? haha
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Some go for the "scooped tone" but I actually prefer mids when I play metal.
 
Cuts through more. Less gain will cut through more, also.
 
My plan is to get a used Fireball and a really cheap cab. If you need to play live, you can always rent a good one.
 
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