get the ibanez 808 which is the pedal well before the ts9 and you will see why the ts9 is ok but if it was me and you offered me a ts9 or a bartolini tube it id take the tube everytime over the ts9 when you listen to the tonal qualities of many pedals you may then say the same you have to own alot of them to judge this for my money its still a bartolini or a big muff the 808 would also rate as well theres really nothing to disagree aboutask those who know about pedals they will say much the same as iam