Best deal in audio education?

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Ok, check it out - a couple of years ago, i took two semester-long classes on recording arts at my local community college(Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo, CA). Near the end of the curriculum, I started looking into schools such as Full Sail, CRAS, and many of the others that offer some sort of degree or certification in Recording Arts.

Of course, these schools all cost at least $15,000 - and that's for the ones that don't actually give you a degree in anything. I thought at the time "Damn, my school's a pretty damn good deal!". The studio was equipped with some great mics(M149, U87's, 414's, royer 121's, etc.) and preamps(1073, UA 2-610, Focusrite 110, Grace 801, + more). Mixing was done on both a Mackie D8B and Soundcraft Ghost, through Genelec and JBL monitors. Best was the fact that the class is taught by an extremely knowledgeable individual - although all of the mixing techniques he shares come from a jazz perspective.

I thought that for $27/unit - a total of $54/semester + books, it had to be one of the best deals in audio education. Then I started the 1st day of the just-added 3rd semester course on Monday, and my previous conclusions have been confirmed. Since I was last there, they've scrapped the D8B and Ghost for a Digi D-Command console, and have added a U47 to the mic arsenal. They've also added 16 channels of API 3124+, along with some great outboard gear to go along with all of the great outboard stuff that was already there.

In addition, there will also be a 4th semester course being offered starting next spring, and the school will be awarding a Recording Arts program certification upon completion. With this new class, there will be 28 Digi 003 systems being installed to take pressure off of the main control room, which now has 3 classes of students fighting for mixing time. This will also allow the school to offer the 200-level ProTools certification. Best of all, the cost is still $54/class. That makes a total cost of $216 for 2 years of courses, plus about $100 of books. In all honesty, where the hell else can you get ProTools certified for that kind of green?

I realize there's probably better places to learn this stuff, and MAYBE even some cheaper...but I thought I might share this, since I see a lot of people asking a lot of questions about audio education. For around the price of a few SM57's, you can get an education that likely rivals that of many of the "top" schools in the industry - and still take courses that are applicable to a degree other than recording arts or music.
 
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Yo He who dresses in IRON:] :rolleyes:

You have the right track for inexpensive "learning." I started my college career at a Junior College and went on from there. [Not in recording arts though.]

I believe the same JC I started at offers an electronics music class, semester, and the cost is very reasonable. Even a larger college might offer some courses and the bigger the college, the more money they have for gear.

I've often mentioned on this site that some good learning can take place if one is fortunate enough to live near a campus that offers EM courses.

And, where you are, the weather is nice most all year.

Not true in Michigan.

Enjoy,

Green Hornet
 
no doubt the weather's always nice

it's rained i think three times since last march

every other day has been either sunny and warm, or sunny and hot
 
I used to teach at a really small program, and agree that you can definitely get a great education at some of these small schools. Inexpensive, hands on almost from day one.

The upside to a huge school like MTSU (the largest 4 year degree in recording in the country) is of course proximity to a major music center, still relatively inexpensive (if you're in state), and a lot better opportunities after graduation.

That said, if you're a go getter, you can succeed having started anywhere. :)

Best of luck.
 
The best deal in audio education is experience, something no school could teach you. School can give you a good basic understanding of the practice, but really mostly everything you could learn in a school could also be learned from trial and error, reading books about the subject, and being around other people who are "better" than you.

But I guess, a school potentially could bring certain things a bit quicker... but then at a price.
 
We build patchbays and wire up ELCO's all the time down here. You are welcome to help!

Show up to a studio with a soldering iron anywhere in the world and they will put you ahead in line past everyone bringing a tape (cd, ipod, whatever) of their latest mix
 
After going through the posts one thing I understood is that the college is the time or say place where one starts in dealing audio education.You can also say that some just starts taking interest in this.But though it's a best thing ever to deal with.I also like in dealing in audio education,but I haven't got a chance.
 
I went to CRAS. Not cheap, but a lot cheaper than Full Sail. Anyway...it was a really great experience. I spent COUNTLESS hours with my friends in the studio, by ourselves, at 3am, experimenting and tracking. We used great high end gear we will probably never be able to afford.

We learned a lot about signal flow, the basics, post production, game audio, etc. The big selling point was being able to use the studio at night whenever we wanted.

I think it was worth it.
 
I went to CRAS. Not cheap, but a lot cheaper than Full Sail. Anyway...it was a really great experience. I spent COUNTLESS hours with my friends in the studio, by ourselves, at 3am, experimenting and tracking. We used great high end gear we will probably never be able to afford.

We learned a lot about signal flow, the basics, post production, game audio, etc. The big selling point was being able to use the studio at night whenever we wanted.

I think it was worth it.

Full Sail is not cheap but they have a lot to offer. You never have to pay for any books. They school buys them all for you. After you graduate you can go back and re take any course that you want for free for the rest of you life. I'll admit though this school is a lot of work, but I think that is any school.
 
Another alternative is to intern yourself for recording studios in your city. You'll work for free and learn some things, If you're good they'll hire you when there's an opening.
 
The best deal in audio education is experience...

"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards."
Vernon Sanders Law

I am not so sure that is such a good "deal..."
 
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