behringer vs studio projects vs mxl???

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hey im looking for a pair of condensors that i can use for drum overheads. it would be cool if i was also able to get away with using them for vocals and acoustic, and jus bout anything...help!!! i've narrowed it down to 3...

Behringer emc 800
studio projects b1
mxl 603

anyone kno anything bout these 3 mics??? please give me a list of pros and cons for all. thank you for all your help
 
The Behringers are very small diaphragm omnis, flat response, higher self noise, cheaper, not flattering on vocals.

The 603's are small diaphragm cardioids, good on acoustic and drum OH, probably OK on vocals.

The SP B1's are large diaphragm cardioids with a fairly neutral response, probably most versatile for all three applications.

I've not recorded drums - just what I've read.
 
B1 is the multipourpose one that will give you all three uses.
 
The 603's would be best for overheads and/or accoustic guitar.

The B1 would be best for vocals.

I'd look elsewhere if you want something for all three.
 
IMO, SP B1, Oktava MK319 and Red5 Audio RV8 are the best budget mics for all those applications.
 
I prefer the B-1's, they make better overheads than the 603 does a vocal mic. The Behringer is a useful specialty mic that's not in a league with the others. Consider a pair of AKG C2000B's. You can usually get new ones on EBAY for $150. They do what the B-1's do, but have bass rolloff and pads, good for overheads and tom, and at least for most of the voices I work with, it's a better vocal mic than a B-1. A good cheap workhorse.-Richie
 
I've been using the AKG C430 for a while now on OH and sound really great. Also beyer dynamic's Opus 84 are great mic's for OH.

Both are affordable, so you can buy yourself a seperate vocal mic (the early mentioned AKG C2000 is a good start)
 
Richie, I'm kinda biased towards the B1 because it works better on my
voice than even the current AKG 414 (too bright/too edgey).
But as always YMMV.

Chris
 
Marshall MXL990......or MXLv67..........

but then again, i wouldnt limit myself my trying to get all that out of one pair......


Id get the 603's for overhead.....the v67 for vocals.....and use a 603/v67 combo for acoustic(v67 out front,603 over the shoulder)......
 
Yo Chessparov! I also use a C414B-ULS (sorry, I don't own a TL-II- yet). I don't use the 414 for vocals, it's a kickass instrument mic that works for a few singers (not me). However, I do use C2000B as a vocal mic, even though the cabinet includes B.L.U.E. Kiwi and Rode NTK! Trust me, I'm as shocked as anybody. It's smaller diaphragm generates a bit of self-noise, but it's a nice, slightly colored mid-size diaphragm mic. On my voice, it's no contest with B-1. I might prefer the B-1 for voiceovers, though, it's accurate. I like the B-1 as a spaced stereo pair for remote recording, also. I've come to believe the C2000B is an underated sleeper, like AT4033 used to be. If you like singing through B-1, you should go to the trouble to audition C2000B, it's a cheap, unsung gem.-Richie
 
Yeah, I think the C2000B is underrated too.
(only sang through it for a couple of minutes at GC)
Like you've pointed out in the past, it's unfairly identified with the
C3000 and C3000B models.

To many of the "old timers" the REAL 414's were the (silver) 414 EB's.
Brad Delp used one for the lead vocals on the first "Boston" album.
(not sure if they were used on the later ones)
Although there have been some singers like Whitney Houston
(in her prime) who sounded great on a 414 B/ULS.

Chris
 
Brad Delp used a PL20 or RE20 (same thing) on the 3rd Stage album, but he's a hell of a singer and would probably sound great through any microphone.

Whitney Houston, I recently read on Prosoundweb, uses a Klaus Heyne modded C414 that's supposed to sound close to an Elam.

The C414 was very popular in the 80s, almost everyone used them for their somewhat edgy sound. Steve Winwood used one on the Back in the Highlife LP. I think today they're not that often used on vocals anymore. People go for a smoother sound now. But perhaps it's also because AKG kept changing the design, and most people don't like the newer ones as much as the old ones.
 
Go with the SP B1's... you'll be amazed at how versatile the B1 is!
 
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