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mwhouston
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Does any other member own Behringer B2s or especially the vlave T-47s? I have both plus the valve preamps.
I would like to hear from other owners.
I would like to hear from other owners.
Disease8
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Hi
I know this is an old thread but was interested in buying a T-47 I like the look of them and want an impressive sounding and looking mic for around £120. What is this mic like? Is it unique sounding or just a typical cheap Chinese condenser?
Cheers.
I know this is an old thread but was interested in buying a T-47 I like the look of them and want an impressive sounding and looking mic for around £120. What is this mic like? Is it unique sounding or just a typical cheap Chinese condenser?
Cheers.
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mwhouston
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To this point I have only used the mics to record a single Yamaha babby concert grand in a small auditorium. I set-up about two meters back with the mics at about standing ear height and 600mm apart. I also use the MIC100 Behringer valve preamps and 24/96 A2D.
You get a tiny bit of hiss from this combo. A SS preamp may reduce this. The sound is very real and natural. The T-47s appear to handle high transients well with no clipping. The pieces I recorded were played with power so lots of volume etc.
If you send me your e-mail address I can forward you a high quality MP3 of one of the tracks. A classical audiophile friend claims it is the clearest he has ever heard piano and intends to use the track I sent him for equipment testing and demonstration work.
witzendoz
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darrin_h2000
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Seemed to me that the man said they were adding Hiss...on what style of music is that considered great
witzendoz
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he said tiny bit of hiss, you don't know how much gain was used as it was classical music with quite passages and set up 2 meters away (6.5 feet).
Also:A classical audiophile friend claims it is the clearest he has ever heard piano and intends to use the track I sent him for equipment testing and demonstration work. Pretty good recommendation.
I still don't know how you can judge this item if you have never tried it.
Cheers
Alan.
Also:A classical audiophile friend claims it is the clearest he has ever heard piano and intends to use the track I sent him for equipment testing and demonstration work. Pretty good recommendation.
I still don't know how you can judge this item if you have never tried it.
Cheers
Alan.
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mwhouston
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Let me talk of the hiss.
Why I may hear hiss and others may not: Firstly my speakers are large 3 ways with French Focal tweeters and weigh 45kg each, are large towers and sell for $AU13,000 overseas. Due to fact I know the maker etc. I got a demo pair for a lot less. I have a hi-fidelity valve preamp ($1600) which uses Jensen copper, paper and oil capacitors and single end (SE)Ultra-linier (UL) valve amp which employs EL34 Black Sable tubes. The CD player is a Vacuum Sate upgraded Oppo 980H which has a Terra Firm clock installed and a highly modded back-end. My interconnects are pure silver wire. The whole system is extremely detailed in its delivery and can reproduce the finest of fine detail in any recording.
I made most of the equipment above. The recordings I did with the classical pianist using the T-47s and 24/96 A2D were cut to a DVD-Audio (DVD-A) disc using discWelder Bronze. The Oppo supports DVD-A. When connecting my Oppo to friends high-end systems the hiss (which is extremely faint) CANNOT be heard. In fact I have played my DVD-A recordings on a number of hi-fi systems and no hiss is audible. I have a number of high rez recordings from a pro-labs which have more hiss than my recordings. I am a happy to share a high-rez MP3 cut from my recordings.
I ain’t say’n T-47 are the last word in mics, but then which one is the last word.
darrin_h2000
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I highly doubt the audiophile friend has studio monitors...and speakers dont produce hiss...they just bring it to your attention...if there is hiss...its coming from the signal chain.
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mwhouston
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Agree on all counts. I'm just pointing out that any low level sounds are audible on high-end good equipment. Unfortunately good equipment will make poor recording sound unlistenable. Most people who listen to music have inexpensive commercial gear and use their DVD player, or worse, their iPod to as a source. My audiophile friend may well have speakers which rival some studio monitors. Studio monitors are generally small boxes though often expensive. Generally mid to top-end heavy to make them sound better than they really are. Hardly high-end! And what amps and preamps are driving these??
I have a quite a number of commercial CD's which have a low levels of hiss that would probably not be audible on most common domestic gear. The level of hiss can be removed digitally after the recording but I find the whole recording sounds worse after the processing. I listen to a lot of old LPs (generally classical) so a bit of surface noise and a few pops and clicks don't really worry me if the music is good and well recorded. After all I'm about listening to high quality music on good equipment and the pleasure that brings.
There are more things wrong with the T-47s than a little hiss. They aren’t for everyone but for the limited recording work I do and the money I want to spend I believe they are excellent. In fees I have charged for my recordings I have recouped my initial outlay and made a small profit so far. No complaints at this end.
darrin_h2000
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Mine has paid of the building the studio is housed in
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mwhouston
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Mine has paid of the building the studio is housed in
For me just a side-line/hobby. I only work four days a week for an Jaycar, electronics store and build audio gear. More a paying hobby than anything else.
What mics do you use and what mehtod to record: hard drive, tape? I take it you not into valves for recording?
darrin_h2000
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Ill get a tube mic sometime when I can get a good one like a C12...theres not alot of very good ones out there for less than $3000...same with ribbon mics...you really have to spend to get one that is worth while.
I have stuck to the Shure...AKG...AT...but the top of the line stuff from those manufacturers...same reasons I dont have a Neumaan...because I wont buy thier most affordable tlm103 because I have a few that are better.
I have a $1 a unit deal with a lady client of mine and she has sold over 100,000 units online so that was instrumental in paying off my house...plus I have a settlement in annuity from when I suffered a stroke in 2002 from effedra producers so even if I dont do much buisness in my studio Im not worried.
I have stuck to the Shure...AKG...AT...but the top of the line stuff from those manufacturers...same reasons I dont have a Neumaan...because I wont buy thier most affordable tlm103 because I have a few that are better.
I have a $1 a unit deal with a lady client of mine and she has sold over 100,000 units online so that was instrumental in paying off my house...plus I have a settlement in annuity from when I suffered a stroke in 2002 from effedra producers so even if I dont do much buisness in my studio Im not worried.