kojdogg
bollocks redux!
sorry-- i have only been using di's for recording these days and those tend to be the ones built into the pres i own (langevin and a-designs). perhaps someone else to chime in?
i'd still see if it works with miking the amp...
i'd still see if it works with miking the amp...
starbuck26
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cusebassman
Freakin' sweet
Or...Behringer
Behringer's active DI (the silver box with the black rubber corners) actually is pretty decent. Of course, I wouldn't trust it in such an important, robot-based environment
Considering the fanfare of such a performance, is perfect guitar tone really of the utmost importance? Something that will split your signal and likely still sound fine would be a 1/4" jack with two separate outputs coming out of it
Sure, your signal is attenuated, and you would have to compensate 
starbuck26
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Behringer's active DI (the silver box with the black rubber corners) actually is pretty decent. Of course, I wouldn't trust it in such an important, robot-based environment
Considering the fanfare of such a performance, is perfect guitar tone really of the utmost importance? Something that will split your signal and likely still sound fine would be a 1/4" jack with two separate outputs coming out of it
Yeah, I guess you're right. The Behringer Box might affect it a little bit, but who cares, in the end? People are going to be staring at all the colored lights bolted to my skull; they'll hardly notice that my guitar has lost a little warmth.
I'll do a new post this weekend once the rig is up and running. It's gonna be badass.
kojdogg
bollocks redux!
i'm no expert in this stuff, but wouldn't coarsely splitting the signal in half with a y cable result in a somewhat anemic signal being passed through to the pedal/amp, as well as some high end roll-off? wouldn't this force you to raise the volume at some point in the chain and also the noise floor? isn't this kind of like taking the nice pickups in the guitar in question and replacing them with twice as many low-output (let's say squire bullet strat pickups for the sake of the discussion)?
if not, please forgive my ignorance...
if not, please forgive my ignorance...
Flamin Lip
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You really dont need to use a splitter to make a rock helmet. Just a single usable tone that makes people worship you will suffice. My first few generations of rock helmets used simple LFO chips out of old Moog synths, but all that came out was "we're through being cool".
Good luck with the project. We need a bigger badder rock helmet.
Good luck with the project. We need a bigger badder rock helmet.
starbuck26
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Paul, the "retarded guitar" player in my band, has this to say:
"I read the posts in the forum. I'd like to say that I think you're a retarded guitar.
A few more comments... splitting a signal is not a trivial thing if you are concerned about tone. It becomes a large math problem matching impedances. But since the frequencies are so low I don't think we'll get a lot of reflective interference. This is based on my experience with signals in the >10 MHz range so I am probably being conservative.
The mic idea is good because it leaves your setup untouched. Downside is the signal is from a passive source, meaning it will be small amplitude and it will need a preamp in the helmet. Not a big deal and we could do it if we had to. One other thing to keep in mind is that the mic signal is balanced, which means we would have to match impedances, but it can be done. The concern about distortion and harmonics could be a problem but I am pretty sure I can get around it with some crude filtering.
I like the direct box because it gives an active signal with a low output impedance. That is the easiest to deal with. But it does cost money and we all know we can't have that. I'll chip in half the $35."
Of course, we've never done this before. He designs electronic doodads that test your piss for foreign substances. But I'm inclined to take his advice.
That said, we're probably going with the Schmeringer DI box.
starbuck26
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32-20-Blues
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Pics? Please?
I've just seen this thread for the first time, and I'd just like to say this:
Starbuck26, you're my new hero. You have now replaced Tom Waits as my most admired and respected person.
starbuck26
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Thanks!
Surely I don't deserve any comparison to Tom motherfuckin Waits. Perhaps when the thing is finished someone will compare me to that robot butler on the Jetsons, but surely not the man himself.
Paul and I are finishing the helmet this weekend. I'll post some vids of it on Sunday once the smoke clears.
Surely I don't deserve any comparison to Tom motherfuckin Waits. Perhaps when the thing is finished someone will compare me to that robot butler on the Jetsons, but surely not the man himself.
Paul and I are finishing the helmet this weekend. I'll post some vids of it on Sunday once the smoke clears.
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ggunn
Crystal Flavolian
Don't overthink this. I am an electrical engineer myself, so I am well acquainted with our tendency to go on about signal loading, frequency response, impedance matching, etc. ad nauseum, but despite all our efforts to look so damn smart, many times it just doesn't make any friggin' diff in a real world situation. Try it the simplest way possible first and see how it sounds.
Just my $0.02 worth.
starbuck26
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Yeah, most of the time I'm tempted to hit him in the kneecap with a whiffle ball bat.
but it seems getting a 30 dollar active DI box will do the trick. Plus, I have other uses for it in the studio.
