Be gentle, first timer.

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I hate you!

You people who just dive into recording and produce these songs that sound like you've been at it for years. Hideaway is too good to just be slapped down on some Roland four track. You are making me feel really guilty for buying the modest gear that I saved up so much for. Great job.

Could you elaborate on how you recorded it. Acoustic guitar direct, doubled, vox with reverb (did you get it all in one take too??), what mic you used, etc. Any mastering? Don't tell me you monitor on tin cans with strings?

You've got something really good going on here. Maybe you can start a new four track revolution. I think it's needed.
 
thanks mate

I hate you![/QUOTE]

HAD ME SCARED FOR A MINUTE

You people who just dive into recording and produce these songs that sound like you've been at it for years.[/QUOTE]

I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED MUSIC AND AT SCHOOL I TRYED TO USE THE OLD 4 TRACK YAMAHA

Hideaway is too good to just be slapped down on some Roland four track. [/QUOTE]

I AM SO GLAD YOU LIKE IT, I HAVEN`T REALLY HAD MUCH RESPONCE ON THAT SONG BUT HEY I LOVE MY BOSS BR532 ITS PERFECT FOR ME

You are making me feel really guilty for buying the modest gear that I saved up so much for. Great job.[/QUOTE]

CHEERS

I SPENT 260 POUNDS AND GOT A SHURE MICROPHONE THROWN IN FOR AN EXTRA 40.

Could you elaborate on how you recorded it. Acoustic guitar direct, doubled, vox with reverb (did you get it all in one take too??), what mic you used, etc. Any mastering? Don't tell me you monitor on tin cans with strings? [/QUOTE]

COOL, I RECORDED IT WITH ONE MICED GUITAR IN THE GARDEN AND THEN PUT ANOTHER TAKE ON ASWELL. PANNED IT A BIT. RECORDED THE VOCAL WITHOUT ANY REVERB AND ADDED A LITTLE THROUGHOUT THE SONG. TRYED TO GET A BEATLES FEEL BY DOING SOME SINGING LAYERS. I GOT BORED WITH THE SONG AND NEVER FINISHED IT THOUGH. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY MASTERING? I DID DO BOUNCING BECAUSE ITS A DIGITAL 4 TRACK ONLY MEMORY IS LIMITING. I ALSO DID A FEW TAKES OF THE VERSES I DISLIKED. I MONITOR ON A PAIR OF SONY RAPAROUND HEADPHONES BUT I HAVE JUST BAUGHT A PAIR OF BIG AKG MUFFS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE SOUND IS SO GOOD ON THEM THAT WHEN I HEAR IT ON ANYTHING ELSE IT SUCKS.


You've got something really good going on here. Maybe you can start a new four track revolution. I think it's needed. [/B][/QUOTE]

THANKS A LOT

I JUST MADE ANOTHER SONG THIS MORNING, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

THIS IS WHAT YOU`VE DONE

:)
 
Didn't get a chance to listen to your new stuff yet but I did get to listen to 'Hideaway' on speakers and I agree whole heartedly with you about the translating problems. The guitar looses its warmth and sounds a bit harsh on speakers. The guitar also drops out during the chorus. Do your self a big favor and get a pair of monitors to mix on instead of headphones. You won't regret it. Someone with as much talent as you deserves them.
 
This is what you've done

Greetings,

I'm listening to the song a few times, so I can talk about it while its fresh. My opinions:

You can sing man, you got a good voice, and nice control (i'm jealous), and the best thing is that you know how to you use. You don't try to sound unnatural, you stay in your range. A simple well don't melody is much better then a complicated off key song.
My fav band is Metallica, I tried to sing like James Hetfield once, it sounded horrible and my throat hurt- thus, do what you do well.

My personal taste is the guitars a little louder. I know soft stuff usually centers on the vocals and words more then instruments, but for male voices, I think it balances better when you hear the strumming around the voice. Its a good mix though, so everything else is just opinion.

on the strumming at 1:00, where it stops and you do a beat on the guitar. I don't like it. The idea is cool, but the "thump" is too soft and not "thick" enough to work out I think. Because your trying to use it a psuedo percussion thingy, and especially when its just silence behind it (no drums), it kinda ends up empty sounding I think. You do it again at around 2:30, but it seems to work much better, I think the first one is mono (panned) and the second time its two guitars (stereo) so that tends to make it more audible.

I REALLY do not like the solo notes panned. Can't stand it. There is nothin else going on (vocals) so why pan them so hard? And then not let them ring a bit? The solo sounds so limited, like someone gave you 4 notes to use and you had to be carefull not to waste them. Also, the reverb on the vocals are good, warm but not noticable, the guitars sound a little bit thin I think compared to the vocals, especially the solo notes, is there any reverb at all on the solo guitar? Doesn't sound like it. You could also try not panning the strumming guitars 100 L/R, so there is just a BIT of an overlap (but not too much else it gets muddy unless they are perfect takes).

The distant vocals at the end are a good way to finish.

I really thing the guitar "thumps" are weak, it makes me notice the silence instead of flowing like ther rest of the song. At 0:55 the stereo thumps are actually a bit off, then it switches to mono thumps. Can you overdub a guitar thump?? never tried it.

So my positives on the mix summed up are;
1. Good reverb levels on vocals
2. Decent use of 2 strummin guitars

My negatives
1. I think the vocals are just a TAD to loud (like .1 decibal)
2. The guitars sound a bit thin, especially the solo notes
3. Hate the panning of the solo notes
3. Do not like the "thumps" becaus they are quiet and not "full"

But definately, all in all, a very nice track. You remind me that I should stop reading about mainframe computer parts and just make music already.

SirRiff
 
Ok..I'm Jealous too...

Home Recorder my A$$!..

How many Cd's do you really have out?

This stuff is great, and you have an awesome voice.
I listened to "Skipalongalie" and Hideaway", and you could easily fit on any major tour bill.

GREAT job, you are one of the most enjoyable artists to me I have heard around here in awhile!

VI
 
Erland -

Listening to What You've Done now.
I really can't find anything wrong to say about it. Your singing is great as well as yuor songwriting.
You should really start thinking about sending these songs to record companies. I would defenitly listen to these songs on the radio, let alone buy a CD.

Oren
 
made me blush

Sir Cliff, thanks ever so much for doing a review. I actually agree with everything you said. I thought you might like the song, as a song and you do so thats great. I made it in the morning after getting some crappy news the night before. I supposes I should start asking mix related questions instead of submitting accoustic songs, probably more relevent to the clinic.

I sat down with a 5 string guitar and a bag of sugar in the kitchen and recorded it using the compressor effect on the mike. There is so many faults in it, you can even here the plectrum scratching and the tempo clicking away in the background. I liked the feeling that it was like recording two people, eg the tinny solo in the left channel and the shaker etc. that was the only reason for doing that in the solo. I also turned up the vocal on "this is what you`ve done" just to, well...I dunno. So I agree with you totally. The song was nice and I wanted it done quickly.

I am annoyed that songs never sounds as good as they do through my nice big headphones, wish I hadn`t bought them. I was recommended to get some Monitor speakers but think I could just put it thorugh the computer speakers. If it sounds good there then it will sound great on anything else.

Thanks again for listening. And YES you should just sit down and nail a song from start to finish beacuse I would love to here your stuff. The days are too short.

Cheers

Virtual Samana - thanks for the advice. I wish I had the money and the space. My flat mates might get annoyed though, plus the attractive swedish girls up stairs may start adding there own drum affects.

Village Idiot - Wow, That is such a nice thing to say. Glad you enjoyed it.

Oren - you too. You`ve made me smile. Thanks mate.

Later

Erland


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