Bass Guitar mic

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Sounds like a plan. :)

There's always the Bass POD too..never heard it tho..the regular guitar POD sounded neat, but mic'ing an amp will prolly always sound 'better'.

--Sal
 
Funny thing:

I'm currently touring with a bassplayer who plays on a upright bass. Only one song in the show is performed on a normal electric bass. This player used to carry a whole stack around just for that one song. I talked him into leaving the stack at home and replacing it with his baspod. After a couple of gigs we agreed both that the baspod wasn't contribueing (?) anything so we decided to leave that one home also and just use a DI.

Now he bought a Sadowski preamp ($300) because he heard it would be great. just to impress us, he did a test were 5 listeners had to decide which sounded the best. He'd play and switch the preamp between bypass and on.

5 out of 5 choose bypass (without knowing) as the best sounding.

(Bas is an old Fender Jazzbas)
 
ahh

So just another gadget to have around..I read something in EM about the guy using a Pod 2.0 never on guitars, but on other stuff to do weird effect on mainly vocals..then again revalver is pretty neat from the 5 minute demo I gave it..

--Sal
 
Thanks to all who responded to this question! Just to be more specific, my bass player runs an Alembic bass with active p/u's, and a 5-string Music Man bass through her Hartke 3500 top into a Genz-Benz cab w/4 x 10's and a tweeter. The Alembic has what seems to be a built in parametric EQ, so there's lots of tonal variation possible. We usually record both a mic'd track and a direct track from the Hartke's DI output, and while it's not thin and buzzy like a lot of amps' DI seems to produce, it can be a bit flat and lifeless, so we often go with more of the mic'd sound to add attack and that cool "rattle" sound from the strings/frets. I will experiment with your suggestions.
(Studio 32 mixer, two LX-20 ADATs, etc.)
 
Thanks for the specifics

If I walked into a session cold with that set-up, I'd put a DI on the output of the bass, especially for catching low B on the 5 string, and a large diaphragm condenser about 3' in front of the 4x10. Using the DI before the amp makes a big difference, as most built-ins use opamps to drive the balanced output and can't compete sonically with a basic Jensen transformer based DI. If you don't have one, get thee over to Jensen's site, download the schematic, and order the DB-E tranny. It's a quick job to put together, I use $5 ammo boxes from the surplus store down the street for a durable case. The Alembic probably has enough gain to go straight into a comp and then to tape, using the make-up gain to set the level, so I'd listen to that sound on some tunes as well.
Miking amps with tweeters is never fun, they tend to beam and limit your placement options. That's why I'd start with a condenser, you can pull it back to get a blend of the speakers and tweeter without losing as much bottom as a dynamic would. One of my studio cabs is a SWR Goliath II and I disconnected the crossover and tweeter 10 years ago, sits in the mix much nicer for me that way. Otherwise, seems like you've got the approach down, bring up the mic and DI, have her play the piece you want to get down, then blend 'em, change positions, swap mics and in general F with it until it sounds right for the song being played. You might find it easier after you've done a take and she can play along with the other instruments while you change the tone, then you can really find the perfect fit. Might just be a 57 pointed at the neck and all this other stuff is balderdash! HTH
Oh, and don't forget, if nothing's working real well, try changing the bass part, sometimes playing with an odd tone can give birth to the coolest ideas.
 
Hi all -

I have recorded most of my own bass part on my band's recordings over the past 6 years and find that in order to get decent variety in tones it requires using several "Best" techniques.

My favorite miced amp set up to date is a sixties Ampeg SB-12 (a fliptop - the B-15's little bro) ran through a separate 15" box.
last record I A/B'd a bunch of mics including a AKG D12, A Sennheiser 421, even a EV 664 - mostly used a SM58. This setup gets a good cutting "Rock" tone. Sometimes I'll toss in a large condenser at a greater distance.

For smooth, warm tones I most often use a basic active DI with a bit of compression.

In the album context I think it really pays to mix it up to prevent the dreaded "one sound fatigue".
 
I just tracked a Fender P-bass through a Joe Meek VC1 the other night, and have found my new box for bass...what a great sound...

Anyone else out there using one?
 
Now we're cookin'

Gidge, thanks for suggesting the AT Pro 25, I obtained one, and combined with the DI bass signal, I'm much happier with the bass sound.
 
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