bass drum help!

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I am using a Roland V-pro set with Sonar 2 software. I have various effects software such as Waves, Timeworks and cakewalk stuff. I can get a great sounding bass drum coming out of the Roland kit, doesn't clip on the wave form, but when I play it back over the monitor speakers I about blow the cones out of em! I've messed with the Waves C1 compressor, and also with the EQ. The only way I can get the cones from poping out of the speakers is to turn the low end way down. This leaves the bass drum sounding like a bad tom tom. Please help!!!

PLEASE!!!

mR. MonroE
 
What is the level on the SONAR meters when you record...then tell us what the meter for that track displays during playback...what I'm getting at is, is there any DC off set?

Take a look at the wave form...does it seem out of balance? It should be well centered on the zero center line.
 
Levels are all fine. I think, no red anyways. Not sure what you mean by DC off Set?

Wave form out of Balance?? It's centered with no clipping peeks.

This is driving me crazy. I've tried many different settings with the EQ with nothing but no low ends to fix the problem. Compressing, I'm not really sure, i've also tried many settings with not good results.
 
Have you tried turning the volume down? If you are monitoring through small monitors, you are not going to hear the low end that is there, so you may be turning the volume of the kick way up to compensate. I doubt it is an eq problem.
 
When I play a song by a favorite artiest of mine I hear a good pumping bass drum. No speakers bouncing at all. I’ll play a mix of mine at the same level and every hit of the bass drum the speakers bounce all over the place. If I turn the volume down for the bass drum I hear nothing. If I just turn the low end down on the bass drum I can hear it but it sounds so week! No feeling at all.

About the drumagog, is this software worth the $99.00? or is it just ok?? I’ve spent much more on software that I was very unhappy with. I even purchased some rack mount hardware for “mixing – mastering” that turned out to be nothing but a doorstop, and a poor one at that because unless you put rubber mounts on it, it will just slide across the floor.

If you could, when mixing a bass drum, what are some basic steps,
I’m just looking for a starting point.

I’m using Sonar 2, Waves, and various direct x effects.

EQ settings?
Compression settings?
Anything else?

Thanks,
 
I think it may just be a matter of EQ. I think you have the volume up loud to hear the freqs which sound good. Try scooping out a lot of your mid-range from 800 hz down to 250 hz. that should lower the amount of pump you are seeing in your cones without sucking the bass out of your bd like you are presently doing. I'd also put some top end on it to increase it's prescence at lower volumes - around 5.2Khz.

all else fails, replace it with a sample.
 
mR. MonroE said:
About the drumagog, is this software worth the $99.00? or is it just ok?? I’ve spent much more on software that I was very unhappy with. I even purchased some rack mount hardware for “mixing – mastering” that turned out to be nothing but a doorstop, and a poor one at that because unless you put rubber mounts on it, it will just slide across the floor.


Thanks,
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Drumagog is great for replacing live drum tracks, that is what it was designed for. If you program your drums with a sequencer, it won't do you any good until version 4 comes out in a couple of months.
 
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