Back with another question... clicking when recording

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Explanation:

moskus said:
Sorry... I find that most UNlikely. If your power supply is not providing perfect DC voltage, I would say it's more likely that you damage your MB or CPU...

Now I'm curious. This I've never seen before. :) What is the "Setting Icon" and "Record Control"? And if your computer somehow should be able to add compression while tracking, I think that the best way is to add it later. ;)

For the power supply, to damage a motherboard or CPU you'd need a power SURGE. Not a small ripple in the power WAVE. (read up on your electronics) Such a ripple MIGHT cause a clicking sound. In the same manner that cheap universal power-packs cause hissing and clicking sounds in synthesizers.

As for the setting icon and the record control well, they will depend on your soundcard's control panel. I was using a generic point of reference to make sure no compression was being used at the recording source.

If you open your control panel in windows XP then open the sound and audio devices, click the audio tab and look under the sound recording heading, you'll find two buttons, volume and advanced. Under advanced you click on the performance tab and you'll find the sample rate conversion quality. This is synonimous with compression.

I hope this helps.
 
Such a ripple MIGHT cause a clicking sound. In the same manner that cheap universal power-packs cause hissing and clicking sounds in synthesizers.

Agree !!!

...and for the rest of what Lord_GalAthon said. I guess he's telling the truth in his own words. ;) You got it, Lord.

;)
Jaymz
 
Re: Explanation:

Lord_GalAthon said:
For the power supply, to damage a motherboard or CPU you'd need a power SURGE. Not a small ripple in the power WAVE. (read up on your electronics) Such a ripple MIGHT cause a clicking sound. In the same manner that cheap universal power-packs cause hissing and clicking sounds in synthesizers.
Yes, I know my electronics... ;) And yes I agree, it could be the cause of the clips.

But I still don't think that this is the cause of the clipping. It could be, but I would not describe it as likely. If you see what I mean... ;)

And I'll admit I've had problems with one of my older PCs which only had a 300W powersupply. Changed it to 400W and it was stable as hell. On the other hand, I've had other PCs with 300W that didn't have this problem.

Porter, how many watts is your powersupply?:)
 
moskus,

I think I'm runnning at 300Watt Power. I've never had any other problems with this PC before.

Porter said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with my power supply... the clicking got worse depending on the loundness of the track. I even exported the track to a wav and played it in media player.... same thing was happening.

Check my previous post... the clicking get's worse depending on the loudness of the signal being recorded.

Porter
 
The signal is not clipping (goes above 0 dB) by any chance?
 
No clipping. As I mentioned, if I set my out to my Edirol whilst recording, I don't have any problems. If I set my out to my Sound Blaster it will record with the clicking noise.

As the source get's louder it get's worse..

Porter
 
You don´t seem to need you´re SBLive anymore so could you please send it to me...

Just kidding... but if you want to use your SBLive for anything later on there is now alternative drivers available giving 5ms latency if you have the 2.2 update. Check out kx project, they rock. (use 3529 beta, 3528 has an annoying bug, with an annoying workaround).
 
Lord,

I'll try and replicate the problem tonight and to post a sample on here. I do all my posting at work. It's really busy (not) at the moment at work. :cool:

Porter
 
Here we go,

I probably should have done this earlier ;)

When I re-recorded this I realised how much it doesn't sound as much as a clicking sound, but more a 'buzz'... and subsequently reading the manual today (I'm gradually working my way through it cover to cover) I read on page 152 that "Using different cards for input and output can produce distortion." The more I listen to this, this is more what it sounds like. I've just recorded a 'testing 1, 2, 3' twice. Both times I say the phrase I'm using the same input (Edirol Da-2496). The first time I say it it was recorded using use the SB Live as the output, and the second time with the Edirol as the output.

I think this is leading to just not using the SB Live. I'm using the latest WDM driver for XP for the SB Live, straight from Creative's site.

Porter
 

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I'm using the latest WDM driver for XP for the SB Live, straight from Creative's site.

...This is the point !!! Don't use the driver provided by Creative. JUST DON'T !!! Use the one comes with your Windows (Microsoft), or use KX Driver. If you use Win XP, then roll back the driver to Microsoft driver. Leave the firmwares (AudioHQ, etc). They're just fine...

;)
Jaymz
 
This was still happening when I was using the Windows XP drivers.. When I had only loaded up Sonar on a fresh install of XP Home.

Porter
 
As I said... it works now... even with it in. It's just disabled in Control Panel. :cool:

Just sucks that it has to be that way though... but life goes on.

Porter
 
...Okay, then you're install Home XP exactly like musicxp.net guide ...that also mean NOT install as ASPI, but as standard PC where you won't share IRQ etc. in anyway. I still believe it's driver & configuration problem. I get mine just fine... just don't ask me how... I couldn't recall for detail :) I never use SB for input monitoring anyway. Use it sometimes for playback the mix. I'll look forward if I find something...

;)
Jaymz
 
Actually I think that ACPI works beautifully in WinXP. I had some issues with Win2000, but they were solved in XP. No problems what-so-ever.

If I installed WinXP as Standard PC, my computer wouldn't even boot (regardless of BIOS-settings).
 
...yeah moskus, I think each setting makes different result in different system / configuration. That's why I think it's very hard to solve these kind of problem easily just by posting in the forum. Since I'm not that realy smart into deep computer knowledge, it's very subjective and vary to tell which will work and which will not using exactly same setting & config... You may get the picture, but not touching the object.

;)
Jaymz
 
It's not a hardware issue for sure. Sounds like a ripple wave from the recorder. A hardware issue click would be more regular and not only when the sound normalizes.
 
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