autotune, cher effect??

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hey, i was wondering, having autotune is the only solution to cher effect?? ive had a go, but its quite hard to get the right keys, ive had a go soo take a listen, and any tips you guys know just reply me! thanx

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The only reliable way to do this is with vocal training. It doesn't take much before you start hearing the benefits - you learn how to use the voice instead of cramping up your neck. Intonation benefits kick in pretty early. Look for a voice coach and give it a month to see if anything happens. My money is on the first or second lesson - pow. :cool:
 
n4eem said:
hey, i was wondering, having autotune is the only solution to cher effect?? ive had a go, but its quite hard to get the right keys, ive had a go soo take a listen, and any tips you guys know just reply me! thanx

www.soundclick.com/desivibez
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If you are wanting to duplicate the "Cher" effect, autotune is one way to do it. The producers of that record claim that they used some outboard vocoder type effect for that song, but that is widely disputed.
 
I was under the impression they used Antares Auto Tune for that effect.
 
Treeline said:
The only reliable way to do this is with vocal training. It doesn't take much before you start hearing the benefits - you learn how to use the voice instead of cramping up your neck. Intonation benefits kick in pretty early. Look for a voice coach and give it a month to see if anything happens. My money is on the first or second lesson - pow. :cool:
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Ha ha, good one.
 
you say you are struggling to replicate it. i think you are trying too hard. just wack the retune speed to 0 and then play with the other dial until you get it. as for the key, try to work out the vocal part on piano, just roughly then add all those notes individually. A cool effect is to limit a vocal part to 1 or 2 notes.
 
Auto-tune is just a glorified vocorder. The Cher song was sounds like the vocal part was played on a keyboard, it wasn't just auto-tune glitching. You can do this with the hardware version of auto-tune (I assume you can run midi to the plugin as well) but any vocorder should be able to get this same effect.
 
Yea!! I have heard this discussd before. What is the "Cher effect" where could one listen to this?
 
The "Cher Effect" is the vocal processing that was used on that song "Believe" from a few years ago. It's the part where she sings (and I use the term "sings" very loosely) and it sounds like a robot and has way more notes than should be in a single syllable. Kind of like Aaron Neville, ya know? :p
 
Farview said:
Auto-tune is just a glorified vocorder. The Cher song was sounds like the vocal part was played on a keyboard, it wasn't just auto-tune glitching. You can do this with the hardware version of auto-tune (I assume you can run midi to the plugin as well) but any vocorder should be able to get this same effect.
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If you actually listen to the song (which I don't recommend), there are two very distinct pitch-altering vocal effects at different points. One of them is clearly Autotune (during the chorus) and the other sounds more like a vocoder (during the verses).
 
And then there's also the point that in the choruses they only had it affect some very small regions of it. For instance, the "do you be-" part is natural, the flip on "lieve" was effected, but then the rest of it "in life after love" was natural also. If they had left the autotune on the whole time, it would have sounded absolutely horrible, completely robotic with no organic qualities to it at all.
 
I hated that song. They wouldn't stop playing it on the radio.
 
And the effect on the song has been discussed to death like it is an engineering marvel or something....

n4eem, I listened to the first track you had up there (the track that seemed to have the effect) and I'd say don't bother with it. It doesn't add anything to that track at all - just leave it with the normal vox. :)
 
sile2001 said:
If they had left the autotune on the whole time, it would have sounded absolutely horrible, completely robotic with no organic qualities to it at all.
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Like that Kid Rock ballad. Blech!! That's maybe the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.

Blatant Autotune is a gimmick, and its an old one. Somewhat more subtle use of Autotune is a fad and it's a large part of what is going to make just about everything you hear on the radio sound very dated in 10 years or so.
 
nkjanssen said:
Like that Kid Rock ballad. Blech!! That's maybe the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.
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But which contributes more to it's horrible-ness? The 'Autotune' part or the 'Kid Rock' part? :D
 
sile2001 said:
But which contributes more to it's horrible-ness? The 'Autotune' part or the 'Kid Rock' part? :D
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Kid Rock. No question.
 
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