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word_play
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thanks for all the replies guys, im going to go to a store that has a 30 day money back gaurantee and try both out and see which one suit me better, thanks again
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chessparov
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That's the way!
Chris
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DJL
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Yeah, that's the way!
Also checkout a few other mics while your there.
Also checkout a few other mics while your there.
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Flatpicker
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I have pondered that question a lot - where do people like AT, AKG, etc get the capsules for their cheap mics? And I'm going to find an answer... Just give me a couple of weeks...donkeystyle said:
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Remember...you got to come back and let us know what you decide.word_play said:
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Look, guys it’s as simple as this... Go here http://www.thelisteningsessions.com/session5.htm and compare the Neumann TLM103 ($1299 list) to the Studio Projects B1 ($99 list) and tell me which one of the two you’d pick for recording that guitarist playing that particular acoustic guitar. Next, go here, http://www.3daudioinc.com/mics.html , order the 3D mic CD and see just how close a Mexican made SM57 ($146 list) comes to a Manley Reference Gold ($5500 list) when it’s plugged into a Great River pre.
My point is simply this: It’s not about the cost of the mic, the company who makes or where it’s made – its about what the darn thing sounds like for your application (your pre, your room, your source, etc...). That’s the bottom line. It either works or it don’t.
My point is simply this: It’s not about the cost of the mic, the company who makes or where it’s made – its about what the darn thing sounds like for your application (your pre, your room, your source, etc...). That’s the bottom line. It either works or it don’t.
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ozraves
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word_play said:
hey, that's exactly what you should do. you should try out a few other mics as well. good luck.
steve
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DJL
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Well, I could take the same mics, preamps, and the same guitar and make the MP3 and CD results sound entirely different. The point is... unless you do the test yourself those MP3's and CD's don't mean crap.
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word_play
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by the way, the pre i own is a dbx mini-pre if that makes any difference
freshmattyp
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If you decide to spend the $199, you should check out the AKG C2000B. It's a great mic for the money and does a lot of things pretty well. I use mine as the mic for my bluegrass band, and also for vocals and acoustic instruments. This song was recorded with just the C2000B:
It's a mic that's worth checking out.
It's a mic that's worth checking out.
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jeffree
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A Follow-Up Question?
OK, then, I just now thought of a related question for you more experienced weisenheimers:
THE SCENE: You have $200 to spend on an all-purpose mic, mainly for recording acoustic guitars. And you have a stand-alone deck (Yamaha 16G, in my case). You're limited to $200 now because you know you'll need to buy more mics (and other stuff) in the near future and you just can't afford more on a mic. Period.
CHOICE A: You buy a good $100 mic, like the Studio Projects B1, which (for a budget mic) has gotten consistently good reviews, even by some of the usually harsh critics here at homerecording.com. It seems to be a solid budget mic. You also spend $100 on a mic pre-amp, like an M-Audio Audio Buddy, to boost and clarify the signal.
CHOICE B: You buy a probably better $200 mic, like the AT 3035, with no pre-amp. You run straight into the deck's XLR inputs and phantom power.
So which $200 choice would you recommend, folks? I'm thinking that your responses will help more than me if others out there are facing the same situation.
Can't wait to see your thoughts. And thanks in advance.
J.
OK, then, I just now thought of a related question for you more experienced weisenheimers:
THE SCENE: You have $200 to spend on an all-purpose mic, mainly for recording acoustic guitars. And you have a stand-alone deck (Yamaha 16G, in my case). You're limited to $200 now because you know you'll need to buy more mics (and other stuff) in the near future and you just can't afford more on a mic. Period.
CHOICE A: You buy a good $100 mic, like the Studio Projects B1, which (for a budget mic) has gotten consistently good reviews, even by some of the usually harsh critics here at homerecording.com. It seems to be a solid budget mic. You also spend $100 on a mic pre-amp, like an M-Audio Audio Buddy, to boost and clarify the signal.
CHOICE B: You buy a probably better $200 mic, like the AT 3035, with no pre-amp. You run straight into the deck's XLR inputs and phantom power.
So which $200 choice would you recommend, folks? I'm thinking that your responses will help more than me if others out there are facing the same situation.
Can't wait to see your thoughts. And thanks in advance.
J.
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chessparov
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J., when you get a chance, check out my latest response in your "Samson" thread, it may help you make up your mind.
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darnold
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Well ive read half of this thread and i dont wonna read anymore, because i hate getting into these chinese mics vs brand name mics and blah blah. Its all irrelevant to everyones needs.
But did notice a comment saying "somebody with little experience and technique cant make even the nicest mic sound good".
Actually ive seen it done. Of course they dont pull out anything amazing, but its really not hard to get a "decent" sound when you have amazing tools. Im definately not saying it was amazing in any way, infact in my opinion it sounded like he was new. But honestly, i would say that it sounded decent enough but it was like he was recording on a $2000 system then a $100,000. But, nicer equipment does give people a bit of a bonus.
Danny
But did notice a comment saying "somebody with little experience and technique cant make even the nicest mic sound good".
Actually ive seen it done. Of course they dont pull out anything amazing, but its really not hard to get a "decent" sound when you have amazing tools. Im definately not saying it was amazing in any way, infact in my opinion it sounded like he was new. But honestly, i would say that it sounded decent enough but it was like he was recording on a $2000 system then a $100,000. But, nicer equipment does give people a bit of a bonus.
Danny
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dudleys100
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I agree with Darnold, you should see what he can pull out with a few good mics 
Just buggin ya Darnold now it's my turn to make fun of you ha! ha! ha!
But for real, I do agree, just in experience with myself. I remember the first time (and only time) I heard my voice through an API and a B.L.U.E. Bottle, compaired with my C-1 and an Edirol Pre that I was suing. Although I do want to make one disclaimer and that is that I feel the ratio is higher dealing with skill. For example I think that if you get 80% more skill on the same equipment you will have better recordings than if you have 80% better equipment with the same skill. I have alos noticed this with myself. Although I am only a sample size of one, I feel that that is fairly universal.
Just buggin ya Darnold now it's my turn to make fun of you ha! ha! ha!
But for real, I do agree, just in experience with myself. I remember the first time (and only time) I heard my voice through an API and a B.L.U.E. Bottle, compaired with my C-1 and an Edirol Pre that I was suing. Although I do want to make one disclaimer and that is that I feel the ratio is higher dealing with skill. For example I think that if you get 80% more skill on the same equipment you will have better recordings than if you have 80% better equipment with the same skill. I have alos noticed this with myself. Although I am only a sample size of one, I feel that that is fairly universal.
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darnold
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Well lets say that gear calculates 20% of recording quality, and skill is the rest. If you have 10% skill you have 30%. And we will say that the lower the quality the gear the lower the percentage is, and the highest is goes is 20% which is very nice gear.
Could be better, but still decent
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(BTW, i think you know who im talking about)
Danny
Could be better, but still decent
.(BTW, i think you know who im talking about
)Danny
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chessparov
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It's more like 95%+ of recording "quality" is who's in front of (main factor),
and who's behind (to a lesser degree) the microphone.
Gear is less than 5%.
Chris
and who's behind (to a lesser degree) the microphone.
Gear is less than 5%.
Chris
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