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hey i have a problem here.
i get a great tone with my sg and my marshall amp. but when it comes to mic it, the sound i get on my pc is waaaaaaaay to crunch. what is more posible to be the problem, the mic (sm57), the mixers preamp(behringer ub1202), my soundcard(the one that came with my compaq), or software (cep)???:rolleyes:
 
maybe you should consider adding "mic placement" into the list of possibilites. Have you tried moving it around?
 
Crunchy how?
Probably a combo of crap preamp, crap converter... dont expect too much there...
 
Personally I think your problem starts at the mic. Don't you have anything better? Pref something with a 10dB pad.


Oh well, if not try backing it off the speaker a bit more. What kind of Marshall is it? Do you run it at 11? Because if you do maybe you could turn it down a tad.

Note: If you do keep your settings as they are and you find yourself having to pull the mic back more than a foot try throwing a blanket or quilt over the amp and the mic to attenuate the room noise.
 
An SM57 should do the job, thats not a problem.

I'll second for the mic placement. Keep in mind that when you find that your amp sounds good, I'm not sure your ear is where you place you mic!

Mics are generally pretty close to the speakers, and you probabely a few meter away from the speakers. Normal it doesnt sound the exact same way. The mic simply dont get what your ear get.

Explore dude, try some other mic placement(I dont mean to place your mic a few meters from the amp :)), as much as turning some knobs on the amp!

my opinion :)

Fred
 
Also.... turn down the gain/dirt!

You don't need anywhere near as much distortion for recording as you might for your rehearsal or live shows.

(Precisely because your ear isn't where the mic is being placed!)
 
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if u have a very crunchy tone, dont point the mic directly at the cone.. try pointing at the edge of the cone, with an angle of 45 degrees, like 2 or 3 inches from the amp.. or mic directly at the amp, while pointingnext to the edge of the cone..

just play around with the placement, it will give you lots of options
 
I recently read that MINISTRY, (some sick metal/mental/industrial/pioneers bastards, if you dont know them)
for their last album, placed the mic (sm57) alomst ON their Marshall (celestion) speaker. Apparently, the mic was only a few millimeters from the speaker, obviously the volume set at 11, or maybe à 15 or 16 with them (?!? we never know...) and they finally found this sound more killer then every other they never heard!

I should try this...


just a comment about the fact that we probabely never explore enough on our field. There is no limits!
 
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eaaaa
thanks for the replies

i think today im trying different mic placement.

whenever i hear ministry, the first thing that comes to my mind is the A.I. soundtrack :D

thank you all
 
MemoGtr, be careful! place the MIC a few millimeters from the speaker if you wanna try this...not your ears!! :p
 
Kryogh said:
MemoGtr, be careful! place the MIC a few millimeters from the speaker if you wanna try this...not your ears!! :p
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hahahahahahahaha

dude, im not stupid ;)
 
EQ...

Many way to work with EQs. I guess someone will say that I'm wrong or I dunno anything or... X files rocks.

What I do, when recording, (sometimes, yes, there are some exeptions) I do not EQ the sources. I try some EQs, I "play" with them, to give me an idea of what could possibely happen, but when I record the source, nothing is EQed.

I have to say that I will probabely EQ a Westbury drum kit before the recording. And I also have to admit that SOMETIMES, I will EQ a bit vocals before rec. The reason is simple, the EQ on my VoicemasterPro is kind of cool to me. So..I use it when I think it's necessary. But it of course depends of the signer. 8/10, I wont use it.

I use many soft Eqs, like waves, TC Works (the parametric TC is one of my favorite) and a few others...

Thats the way I use EQs :)
 
so what ur saying is i should leave the mixer's eq knobs at 0?:confused:
 
Well you should do whatever you want dude! There is not necessairely a real "how to" for this.

But, the first thing to do is to try different mic placement to get the better source, no doubt about this.

Then, if u use a Behringer or Phonic, or a Mackie VLZ or..ya know, I still think you shouldn't use these EQs. Often better with softwares than cheap hardware.
 
ya se wey!

i know ,i know.
i meant that if that was your suggestion.
i already solved the placement issue. thanks to www.sae.something lol
 
Damn!

looks funny but I dont understand your joke :(

damn french first language
 
huh? what joke?
my first language is spanish of course :D
said to be the most musical language
 
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