carlosguardia
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Ok so how fast can you alternate pick up and down a set of notes (chromatic or diatonic)?!
Jamal Bucket
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nope. im more of a shudder....
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PFDarkside
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16ths around 120. I suck at speed. 
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Agtronic
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Um, I'm not too informed in techical terms, but would legato style playing count? Or are we talking about the picking?
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mocharock
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Personally I am not that fond of shreddding and more. I am more into the off beat. Or better yet the beat neck type of sound. Hmm maybe I am influenced by my friend jitteringjim....could it be?
bdbdbuck
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Once upon a time I fancied myself a shredder, now my fingers just won't do what they used to do. I prefer a more laid back type of playing now anyway......that's my story, and I'm stickin to it!
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Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
I'm no Malmsteen, but I guess I can hold my own (and often I do
). But the last few years I've trying hard to not cram as many notes as possible into a bar but rather strip down to the notes that have heart. I think Lindsey Buckingham (of all people) said sometimes one note says it all.
). But the last few years I've trying hard to not cram as many notes as possible into a bar but rather strip down to the notes that have heart. I think Lindsey Buckingham (of all people) said sometimes one note says it all.
64Firebird
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I can play about as fast as anyone I've heard. But, I've found that I can say a lot more if I slow down. Speed notes are much easier than a good wide vibrato.
carlosguardia
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Not to cram as many notes into one bar is cool, and of course there are always those choice notes that sound better than just a bunch of notes... BUT... it's always nice to know that you CAN play with both speed and accuracy and also be able to choose the notes you want to play. I once saw a clinic by Billy Sheehan who is an incredibly talented bass player and can really shred, and he said that speed and technique can NEVER hurt your playing. It's just a matter of doing it with style. Filling a song with 16th note runs at 160 bpm might sound lame and boring but it's cool to be able to have the ability to do one or two phrases that demand that speed and sound fluent. Like Sheehan said in his clinic, it's nice to learn the all the rules (and I add, rules and technique) to then use what you want, need or best suits the song and not be limited by anything in your playing. I guess it's probably that 90's attitude that most players have towards technique, harmony and theory. For a while it was totally un-cool to be able to play fast or to know about scales and modes. I believe that's just being mediocre. There are SO many musicians that if you want to be the BEST (assuming we all want to be the best at what we do) you have to continue to build your chops in every aspect of your playing. You don't have to play like Vai or Malmsteen in your music; you can choose to play like Cobain or Slash, but it's better to know that you chose to do so and not end up playing like that because you can't do any better... and I have a feeling that the whole SIMPLE deal is dying out and that more and more, people want to hear the better educated and more talented musicians...but maybe that's just me.
Just my two cents,
Carlos
Just my two cents,
Carlos
GONZO-X
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i have been accused of being a shredder....
but i have never thought of my playing as being that way.
maybe i just think fast.
or maybe, i don't think!
yeah, that's it, that's the ticket......
but i have never thought of my playing as being that way.
maybe i just think fast.
or maybe, i don't think!
yeah, that's it, that's the ticket......
eyeslikefire
I CAN SMELL EM!
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King Elvis
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Listen,
I dont mean to brag or anything, but, when I am playing with my skin flute I am doing about 160 reps a minute!!
I dont mean to brag or anything, but, when I am playing with my skin flute I am doing about 160 reps a minute!!
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Analytical Man
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I agree that playing fast is something that has died out. in todays music it really doen't matter. Will it come back, i hope so. Not so much in leads as in rythyms. I like fast leads as well but the fast rythyms are what i think are good. Speed for speeds sake is lame, but speed to fit a song is awesome. And i agree that being able to play all that stuff is great, but doesn't mean that you always need to use it. And it is nice to know you can break it out when you need it. This thread apealed to me...i am trying to get back to a little more speed and technique.
BrettB
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I hate schredders: 9 times out of 10 it are ppl who don't have anything to say musically
GONZO-X
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you know, it's reponses like that.....
that make me laugh out loud!
brettb, man, so much hate!
sounds so much like sour grapes dude.
believe it or not, there are players out there that operate on such a higher plane than you can think, it kind of makes your lame response irrelevent.
and in the end, none of that really matters, it's just about what touches your heart.
if it doesn't touch YOUR heart, don't ruin it for someone else who's heart it DOES touch.
such a self centered thing to say.........
shame on you.
that make me laugh out loud!
brettb, man, so much hate!
sounds so much like sour grapes dude.
believe it or not, there are players out there that operate on such a higher plane than you can think, it kind of makes your lame response irrelevent.
and in the end, none of that really matters, it's just about what touches your heart.
if it doesn't touch YOUR heart, don't ruin it for someone else who's heart it DOES touch.
such a self centered thing to say.........
shame on you.
carlosguardia
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Brett, hate is bad. Music is good. Go pick up your instrument, whatever it is that you fancy, and play it... but play it well!!!
Carlos
Carlos
Son of Mixerman
Mix Junior
I shredded... In my younger days my ally was Paul Gilbert (Racer-X) and on good days could pull of a good portion of
Micheal Angelo. I slowed down just a tad into the Vai range and just do what I want to do. Blending speeds with melodic rollercoasters so everyone goes for a ride. Wheee.
I was trained by Blue's and Jazz teachers...Im such a rebellious youth... (was)
SoMm
Micheal Angelo. I slowed down just a tad into the Vai range and just do what I want to do. Blending speeds with melodic rollercoasters so everyone goes for a ride. Wheee.
I was trained by Blue's and Jazz teachers...Im such a rebellious youth...
(was)SoMm
BrettB
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Ok, maybe 'hate' was too strong as a word. And ok, maybe some ppl find shredding a way to express their emotions in music.
But on the otherhand, I still think there's something wrong when you measure your musical ability by how fast you can play your notes.
And believe me, the guitarist I know who brag about their shredding express for me nothing musically interesting. If you want to brag, do sports or something, bu t music shouldn't be about achievements.
But on the otherhand, I still think there's something wrong when you measure your musical ability by how fast you can play your notes.
And believe me, the guitarist I know who brag about their shredding express for me nothing musically interesting. If you want to brag, do sports or something, bu t music shouldn't be about achievements.
GONZO-X
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tell that to Beethoven and Prokofiev !
it's never about bragging!
only braggarts suck.
not excellent musicians.
most excellent musicians never brag.
or at least, they shouldn't.
it's never about bragging!
only braggarts suck.
not excellent musicians.
most excellent musicians never brag.
or at least, they shouldn't.
carlosguardia
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Are the Caprices by Paganini bragging?! Hmmmm.... Talk about shredding, Paganini was a MONSTER!!!!!!!!
Carlos
Carlos