Are M Audio things any good?

[stevieb]

That's a bit like asking 200 Eskimos if their landscape is beautiful to look at.

Who you callin' an Eskimo??

Really, not sure what you are saying, here. It sounds to me like you are saying that most of us here are experienced only (or mostly) with M-audio gear, and thus are not really able to take an objective view of it?

(I am not saying that's what you are saying, Im just a little comfused )

 

[GONZO-X]

my audiophile 192 card is awesome.

i've gotten stellar tracks with it.

 

[Ethan Winer]

Lol, not interested, did my own comparison. Focusrite Saffire blew the Delta away on my system and thats all that matters to me, I'm not an audiophile engineer, just a hobbyist with his own opinion. If you think M-Audio Delta(s) stand up to "state of the art" interfaces knock yourself out.

This happens every single time. Someone claims that [whatever] sucks compared to [whatever], but when pressed to pass a blind test all of a sudden they're too busy. Pete, you need to understand the difference between sighted anecdotal listening and blind testing. I hope you understand that a blind test is the only way to really know what's true versus what's imagined.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't give a crap what someone prefers. It's their money. But when someone asks honestly whether [whatever] is a decent value, I have no patience for people who put forth their unfounded opinions as fact. I'll be glad to consider your opinions "founded" (is that a word? ) if you can tell us which of those mixes is through the "crappy" Delta card and which is through the Lavry converter. It won't even take you very long! And then you'll really know for sure yourself.

--Ethan

 

[GONZO-X]

This happens every single time. Someone claims that [whatever] sucks compared to [whatever], but when pressed to pass a blind test all of a sudden they're too busy.

did my own comparison. Focusrite Saffire blew the Delta away on my system

LOL

"What we've got here is...failure to communicate.

Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men."

 

[sjjohnston]

I'll be glad to consider your opinions "founded" (is that a word? )

Certainly ... in common parlance, typically combined with an appropriate adverb to form what's essentially a cliche: "well founded."

Anyway, your post makes a good point (or several good points) about the reliability of "sighted" tests (now I know that's a word), as well as the general enthusiasm (or lack thereof) for doing blind tests.

 

[grimtraveller]

Really, not sure what you are saying, here. It sounds to me like you are saying that most of us here are experienced only (or mostly) with M-audio gear, and thus are not really able to take an objective view of it?

(I am not saying that's what you are saying, Im just a little comfused )

No, my comment was nothing to do with anything that any of the responders had said. Asking if an entire company's range of products {as per the title} are any good struck me as being an interesting question but one that is a question that contains it's own reply. The answer simply cannot be 'no'. You can't even say 'well, for some people, it's no'. Because once a person has said 'yes', then all bets are off aren't they ? In a curious way, the exchange between PDP and Ethan highlights this.
Now, asking for peoples' experiences with a particular product and why they may like or dislike it is a different matter.
As for the Eskimo analogy, if you weren't sure if the snowy expanse was beautiful to look at and you asked 200 Eskimos, chances are they wouldn't all answer the same thing. So where would that leave you ? If on the other hand you asked them to give reasons for their answer...........

 

[PDP]

I have no patience for people who put forth their unfounded opinions as fact. I'll be glad to consider your opinions "founded" (is that a word? ) if you can tell us which of those mixes is through the "crappy" Delta card and which is through the Lavry converter. It won't even take you very long! And then you'll really know for sure yourself.

--Ethan

OK I'll admit I was wrong and I'll be more mindful of making unfounded claims. Its possible I imagined the Focusrite was better, IDK? I was fed up with M-audio at that point, honestly I 've had nothing but problems with their gear. Thats what I should have said.

Sorry

 

[geekd]

I can offer this experience: I had a M-Audio ProjectMix I/O. I recorded my band's drummer on it 4 or 5 times. I sold it, and bought a Mackie Blackbird and a TC Electronics Impact Twin. I just recorded my drummer again on that set up.

The new set up sounds MUCH better than the recordings on the M-Audio ProjectMix.

The ProjectMix is a good controller. The interface part of it could be better.

 

[dkelley]

I used to work with Delta 1010LT cards and liked them. I'm now using the ProFire2626...again like the M-audio stuff.

yea. I'm still on 1010lt cards. seriously - m-audio is solid and good. really it's more a matter of features rather than "is this good" when dealing with $400 and less audio interfaces imho. they all sound quite good. it's not like the old days when one would sound great and another, poor.

 

[Ethan Winer]

^^^ That's an excellent summary IMO. All sound cards these days sound great unless they're broken or really lame. And lame is very rare. One reason I like M-Audio, besides the fair prices and high quality, is they're always on top of new drivers when needed. I've been using my Delta 66 since Windows 98, and they always had a driver for each newer OS before I needed it. A month ago I spec'd and set-up a killer laptop for a friend, and it was a no-brainer to get an M-Audio FastTrack Pro because I knew they'd have working drivers for his Windows 7 64-bit.

--Ethan

 

[grimtraveller]

OK I'll admit I was wrong and I'll be more mindful of making unfounded claims. Its possible I imagined the Focusrite was better, IDK? I was fed up with M-audio at that point, honestly I 've had nothing but problems with their gear. Thats what I should have said.

Sorry

Man, you have my respect ! Well, you always had it, but that took guts, even in the anonymity of the net. We are people, not fingers that type words on screens.
Props PDP !

 

[PDP]

. We are people, not fingers that type words on screens.
Props PDP !

Thanks Grim, much appreciated, I agree, we're gonna make mistakes, its human.

Have a great weekend brother

 

[kcearl]

^^^ That's an excellent summary IMO. All sound cards these days sound great unless they're broken or really lame. And lame is very rare. One reason I like M-Audio, besides the fair prices and high quality, is they're always on top of new drivers when needed. I've been using my Delta 66 since Windows 98, and they always had a driver for each newer OS before I needed it. A month ago I spec'd and set-up a killer laptop for a friend, and it was a no-brainer to get an M-Audio FastTrack Pro because I knew they'd have working drivers for his Windows 7 64-bit.

--Ethan

except my quattro...its last driver was for XP

 

[mustaeki]

I had an M Audio recording device for guitars. USB.

Didn't work.
So I took it back and bought a gun instead.

 

[sjjohnston]

I had an M Audio recording device for guitars. USB.

Didn't work.
So I took it back and bought a gun instead.

Since you're still typing, I guess I'm assuming the gun didn't work either?

 

[grimtraveller]

Unless of course mustaeki is an out of control gunman on the loose......

 

[BillCarlson]

If you're looking at getting a fast track series including the pro. I would highly recommend the focusrite saffire usb 6 or new scarlet 8 usb2. The fast track pro's preamps work but that's about it Focusrite has been know for there preamps for 25 years, with that said the m audio 610 and 2626 have octane preamps that are very clean sounds. But that's getting into fire wire which I could suggest interfaces better than those.

 

[DrCobweb]

For the past few months I've been using the Fast Track Ultra 8R. It's been great; no glitches, no problems. In the studio I feed it into a new Dell PC running Windows 7, but I've also used it to record on location into an HP laptop running XP and had no problems either way. I like the versatility of the 8 inputs and multiple outputs; it lets me stereo-mic two acoustic guitars plus vocals from both players in a live session, with inputs to spare and separate headphone mixes for me and each of the players. The Octane pre's are nice and clean, and I like the onboard DSP that lets me mix a little reverb to the player's phones so they don't sound too dry (without having to add effects in my DAW during tracking, eating up resources and opening up potential latency issues). I've only had it for three months, but so far I have nothing but praise for it. Works great.

 

[TripleM]

Does anybody know how the A/D converters compare between the Delta 44 and the 1010? Are they the same? If not, how are they different? I have the 44 and I'm curious.

 

[anilnc]

Hi does anyone here used both Profire 2626 and Projectmix? I was using FW410 since 6-7years and worked well. I need to update since I need more inputs and a better preamps. According to reviews Profire 2626 has pretty good preamps. But what makes me confuse to choose is the Control surface of Projctmix which help me a lot in mixing grounds. But does its preamps not so good? Please help me and I apologize for if my topic isn't related to this thread but I am new and didn't know how to start a new post.

thanks
PS. I use Intel i7 920, 2.6ghz, intel MB DX58, M-Audio FW410, Triton Workstation, Cubase 5, Nuendo SX3, Reason 4, Ableton Suite, Behringer B2 Pro, Roland DP-8, Sennheiser HD250.