Are Behringer Eurorack Mixers worth a f**k?

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Do you find the MG 10/2 to give good results (not much hissing, clear sound etc)? I've seen one on sale for $100 which seems reasonable to me.[/QUOTE]

As noisedude said the Yamaha MG10/2. Keep in mind your enviorment and what you are doing.

The Yamaha MG10/2 is good. I really don't have any hiss. is the S/N higher than say the Mackie? Probably, but not anything that you will notice when you record. Besides is not like you have an isolation booth or a professional studio. You'll pick up more ambient noise than the Yamaha will add into the line.

Keep in mind everything in your signal chain will add some noise. Your mic, the cable, the mixer, and the soundcard. I bought a Yamaha MG 10/2 for $99 at Guitar Center brand new, and I have not regreted my purchase.
 
That's cool. The MG 10/2, for the price bracket, seems like an all-round favourite on this thread anyhoo. I know I'm gonna get noise from using relatively cheap mics, leads etc. but just checkin' cos I don't need anything else creating a hum.
 
For those of you with the 10/2, with only 2 outs, how do you monitor your input and mix? I was under the assumption you'd need 4 outs (e.g., MG 12/4) in order to hook up external devices and be able to monitor...
 
'Tap' the inserts as direct outs and then monitor the return in the normal way. Only works if your soundcard has direct monitoring, which most do now.
 
Thanks noisedude...I am working on a Mac laptop, and have yet to decide on an interface (USB vs. Firewire) to record two channels at time (maybe up to 4 if I invest in a drum kit), so I will definitely the direct monitoring feature in mind.
 
teetopkram said:
For those of you with the 10/2, with only 2 outs, how do you monitor your input and mix? I was under the assumption you'd need 4 outs (e.g., MG 12/4) in order to hook up external devices and be able to monitor...
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The 10/2 has a CR OUT and a ST OUT.
You can use the CR OUT for your Monitors, and the ST OUT to go into your DAW, or soundcard.

However, you'll get a lot less S/N if you go through the Insert I/O out of each channel (preferred method anyway), but if you only have a limited number of inputs in your soundcard then you may want to combine the signals and send it to the soundcard via the ST OUT.

The Yamaha 10/2 has four outs (or two pairs of outs) 2 returns, 2 AUX.

I'm sure you know this, but if you use the Insert I/O as the output you cannot use reverb on that line alone (because you are using the I/O), however you still have the AUX1 & 2 (pre & post amp) and you can use them to add effects to all the channels (you use the selector to decide on how much each channel gets and which AUX it will get).
 
Oh! forgot! The 10/2 also has a Headphone jack for headphones.

Pretty versatile for a little mixer.
 
But if the Control Room knob is down, you can't hear thru the phones. I couldn't figure out a way of getting four inputs running and monitor at the same time but I use separate mixers as a fudge now anyway.
 
noisedude said:
But if the Control Room knob is down, you can't hear thru the phones. I couldn't figure out a way of getting four inputs running and monitor at the same time but I use separate mixers as a fudge now anyway.
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Well, the other way of doing it is using a Y cable and (You know two TS to one TRS) plug it into the ST OUT and plug your headphones to that. Then you can have the control room down all the way and control the Headphone volume with the ST Level.

However, this assumes you are using the Insert I/O to your soundcard and yes you can't record four seperate channels.
However, you could also use the RCA REC OUT with a (From RCA to TRS) Y cable for the headphones as well and then use the ST OUT as your main out to the soundcard.

So, in summary.

1. You could Record two channels (using Inser I/O) Monitor via the C-R OUT and use a Y cable out of the ST OUT for the Headphones.
2. You could Record six channels (using ST OUT) Monitor via the C-R OUT and use a Y cable out of the REC OUT for the headphones.
3. You could use two mixers like you are doing.
4. You could get a Monitor Speakers and Headphone control/amp.
 
That's true, you could do that. In fact, it may be easier than switching my monitors on and off ... hmmm ....
 
noisedude said:
That's true, you could do that. In fact, it may be easier than switching my monitors on and off ... hmmm ....
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I agree! That's what I've been doing because I haven't found the RCA to TRS Y cable yet (GC has been out of them) and I'll do that if I want to use my ST OUT. However, for now I'm going from my 3Q to my sound card and so I've used the ST OUT for the Headphones but I've also been playing around and recording myself (not someone else).

I should probably get a control for my monitors and Headphones if I want to do anything real but for now it's okay.
 
berringhers are essentially mackie immatations. Now im not a big fan of mackie i would take my roland over it any day but if your willing to sacrifice a few channels on the mackie you will get essentially the same thing your getting in a berringher with a longer life and better quality.
 
What about Phonic brand? It is very similar to Behringer or Mackie... another imitation?

Another thing... look at THIS page under Computer Based Music Production. One cable goes from mixing console to Audio Interface and there's another cable going directly to computer. What does that cable do? Is it possible that it separates channels one from another so that you get a channel for every input.
 
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va5ja said:
What about Phonic brand? It is very similar to Behringer or Mackie... another imitation?

Another thing... look at THIS page under Computer Based Music Production. One cable goes from mixing console to Audio Interface and there's another cable going directly to computer. What does that cable do? Is it possible that it separates channels one from another so that you get a channel for every input.
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I'm not sure but they are showing you the Yamah MG16/4 series has nothing to interface directly with a computer. Here is their link to the MG16/4 http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/mixer/a_mixer/mg_series/mg16_4/index.htm.

I own an MG10/2 and love it, but I found out that the new Mackie ONYX mixers have the option to have an computer firewire interface installed directly onto them. Now that's cool!
 
I think that I figured out what Yamaha is showing you.
On one instance it's showing you that you could go from your Yamaha to a Firewire type interface to your computer or from your Yamaha to a PCI type of interface to your computer. I think that's what that little black square represents.
 
I have a eurorack MX 2004A ,and a16 channel Pevey Mark III use the beringer for a p-power supply the peavey is an oldy but goody p- power broke right now doing live stuff while recording
 
Behringer 1002 Eurorack

Hey I just bought that $75.00 mix from you!

So what is it that’s bad about the Behringer 1002 Eurorack?

The one I purchased seems to be a very useful tool. If I had more money of course I would have bought a different mixer. Portability is what I needed and there’s nothing close to the 1002 Eurorack in terms of price or performance.

A SHURE M-67 MIXER has been my mixer of choice but I want to do more recordings in stereo. Maybe I should use two M-67's?

Most of the recording I’ve made with other mixers have been with a pretty flat EQ. Getting a good sound out of the berringer requires a bit more of a change in how I usually set the EQ. The setup is not a 12’oclock straight out of the box mixer.

So it's not a mixer I'm going to love but what the hells wrong with it?

The audio I end up with sounded pretty good.

What specifically about this mixer makes you dislike it so much?
Is it the failure rate, performance or inconsistency that dogs this item?
 
Garry Sharp said:
Yamaha MG10/2 or 12/4 must be about the same price...far better.
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Another vote for Yamahas and his MG series. I had a Beh UB1002 and I sold it after I purchased an MG 16/4. Comparing both the Yammy wins for a mile. I wont say anything bad about my Beh mixer it helped me a lot with my band project, but you know, after reading some great posts about MG series I bought it. ;)
I think it was a great decision.
 
Eurorack

Is there a portable battery operated stereo mixer similar to the 1002 with a nutgall EQ and better operating specs? What would be recommended?
 
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