I can only assume you're talking about the BR-8. Which has been discontinued. I use the BR-8. I think it's a nice machine but if I were in the market now I would go with the BR-1180. This is bascially an upgrade of the BR-8 and the reason it is now "vintage". If you're low on funds though, check out ebay. You can generally find one on there around $350 or lower I think (don't quote me).