Anyone tried Modular Acoustics?

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I looked. Not ONE BIT of absorption testing data :rolleyes: For all you know, there could be shredded newspaper inside. As far as modular goes, REAL TRAPS is your best bet.
http://www.realtraps.com/
fitZ
 
There is no test data because I JUST put the new product on my site yesterday and still working out the literature. They are basically just slabs of 4" 3# rigid fiberglass panels with a fitted "bag" around them. The test data will read pretty much the exact same as a 4" slab of insulation because the fabric doesn't really change the properties very much.

If you're looking for a super solid absorber that looks great and will last long enough to pass down to your kids, go ahead and spend your money on RealTraps. They're a good product. These panels are for the people trying to save a little money. Most people I know don't have an extra $1600 to spend on acoustic panels and if they did they would rather spend it on a new "toy" to play with. Most people know they need to treat they're room but just can't justify the cost. I just think its easier to justify spending less money. I even offer just the bags as a DIY product for the people trying to save as much as they can.

Ethans products are great and have they're own market. My product is in in a totally different category. Just check out this quote.

"I'd much rather see someone buy from another company than do without."

--Ethan

Taken from Gearslutz.com

Nick Fournier
 
Hi Nick,

Nice to see you here, and thanks for the kind comments.

> "I'd much rather see someone buy from another company than do without." <

Indeed. Hear, hear!

--Ethan
 
Rick:


I gather Nick will be selling just the wrappers - that way, if you like, you can stuff em with your own brand of shredded newspaper [or acquire Owens Corning 703 locally and save on shipping costs by rolling your own 703 panels without undertaking a carpentry / upholstery project]. You can see pics of these units being prepped for installation as would be done by a user wrapping his own panels here:

http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?t=1824&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Nick:

Don't sell yourself short - as you are well aware, lab test prove that 703 [compressed fiberglass panels] makes for an exemplary acoustic absorber - as good as any other material known. In fact compressed fiberglass is the "active ingredient" used in minitraps, and 703 is as good as the best acoustic quality foam products available. Thus a user in no way skimps on performance when using this material.

I salute you for responding to my challenge and taking the initiative to make the product... I'll be linking to your site whenever non carpentry / upholstery skilled DIY'ers inquire of me how to make cheap and easy 1st quality absorptive panels for their rooms.

Good Luck in your new business - you are the man!
 
Is there some sort of spray that you could use to make the fabric flame retardant?
 
tkingen said:
Is there some sort of spray that you could use to make the fabric flame retardant?
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I think that the spray would harm the material's absorbive (sp?) qualities.
 
Check out Natfire.com. They make a bunch of flame retardant sprays. They even have a spray for open and closed cell foams, wood, and insulation. I'm always trying to find better flame retardant fabrics but right now I make no clame to any class of flame retardancy. Hopefully soon, but I've said that MANY times before.
 
Nick Fournier said:
Check out Natfire.com. They make a bunch of flame retardant sprays. They even have a spray for open and closed cell foams, wood, and insulation. I'm always trying to find better flame retardant fabrics but right now I make no clame to any class of flame retardancy. Hopefully soon, but I've said that MANY times before.
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Nick,

Be very VERY carefull. If you are selling a commercial product that is not flame retardant - you place yourself in possible jeopardy.

Seriously - this is something you should reconsider - it would still be cost effective from a sales point of view if you added the cost of either treatment or retardant fabric, but taking a chance on losing everything you have ( or might have for a lot of years to come) doesn't make sense - just to save a few dollars.

Don't think for a moment that people would hesitate for a new york second to sue you if anything ever happened.

Sincerely,

Rod
 
Hello Nick. I like it when people who are selling on the net, come back here and clarify reasons for things. Just as Ethan does. I've pinned Ethan to the wall a couple of times when things didn't appear "acoustically correct". But he has always been a gentleman and explained in detail what is going on. That's why he has my respect. Now that you have clarified for the forum what you are selling, well...all I can say is COOL and GOOD LUCK!! :D BTW, its tough being the resident poophead but someones got to do it! :p Sorry if my comment was a little deragatory, but I can only comment on what I read.....or don't read sometimes. ;)
fitZ
 
Rick, no harm done. I'm am ALWAYS a bit cynical when a new product comes on the market and your right, someone has to be -that guy-.

Rod,
Thanks for pointing that out. Its always been something thats been eating me up inside and until you brought it up it was a subject that I kind of swept under rug. Its not that I'm trying to save money here its just that this product has taken SO long to develope. . For a long time I couldn't find any flame retardant fabric so I stuck with what worked acoustically and physically. The next run will most deffinetly be flame retardant fabric and I've been calling people up figuring out who can treat the bags I have right now. I know how something like this could ruin me for years to come so I'm doing something about it. Thanks for bringing it up, I just needed to hear it from someone else.

Nick Fournier
 
Nick Fournier said:
Rick, no harm done. I'm am ALWAYS a bit cynical when a new product comes on the market and your right, someone has to be -that guy-.

Rod,
Thanks for pointing that out. Its always been something thats been eating me up inside and until you brought it up it was a subject that I kind of swept under rug. Its not that I'm trying to save money here its just that this product has taken SO long to develope. . For a long time I couldn't find any flame retardant fabric so I stuck with what worked acoustically and physically. The next run will most deffinetly be flame retardant fabric and I've been calling people up figuring out who can treat the bags I have right now. I know how something like this could ruin me for years to come so I'm doing something about it. Thanks for bringing it up, I just needed to hear it from someone else.

Nick Fournier
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Nick,

There are a number of companies out there that make treatments you can apply to any type of fabric that will not alter the fabric's acoustic or visual properties.

You would be best suited to use this until you find a treated fabric that will work for you.

Here's some companies who provide this:


http://www.flamestop.com/html/product_guide.html

http://www.natfire.com/products.htm

http://www.flameseal.com/products.html

I've worked with all 3 company's products over the years.

Sincerely,

Rod
 
Nick,

Are you still doing that "trade in gear or panels" thing? I always thought that was a pretty cool idea. Some of the other people on the boards might really be into that.
Just a thought.

Glenn
 
I thought about it but almost EVERY trade I ever made I ended up selling because I didn't really need it. I traded a guitar store for a brand new Strat (about $600) and it sucked. The bridge was so badly designed that the high E was way out of alignment and couldn't even be adjusted. I ended up trading my friend a Jazz bass for it with EMG pickups. I also read on the Mix site that they don't allow any company to allow trades. I thought that was a little strange but what can you do.
 
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