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Marcellovalerio
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Everyone is raving about these plug-ins...Can someone PLEASE BASH the UAD-1 Plug-ins? I need an excuse for not bying them...It's the way the look isn't it? That set's em above the rest....is it not? 
metalhead28
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They frickin suck it hard!
There, feel better?
There, feel better?
mshilarious
Banned
Marcellovalerio said:Everyone is raving about these plug-ins...Can someone PLEASE BASH the UAD-1 Plug-ins? I need an excuse for not bying them...It's the way the look isn't it? That set's em above the rest....is it not?
No, I hate the way they look. They take up too much damn room on my screen.
If only they didn't sound so good
Zetajazz44
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I don't own them...yet. But I've been researching, and I'm finding that a lot of people are having some really bad latency issues with them... At least ProTools users like myself are... It may be a 'ProTools only' issue, I've not found that out yet...
Might be something worth researching for yourself before you buy.
Might be something worth researching for yourself before you buy.
vestast
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Zetajazz44 said:
Using UAD with Cubase and I have no latency issues at all but Cubase has a built in delay compensation (or something like that).
From the UAD manual: Most host applications automatically compensate for latency when plugins are used on track inserts by simply turning on the "Plugin Delay Compensation" or similar preferences setting.
If the host doesn't have this feature then the solution is to use the UAD Delay Compensator plugin (page 43).
http://www.uaudio.com/_works/pdf/manuals/UADManual.pdf
Have fun!
mshilarious
Banned
Zetajazz44 said:
A few of their plugs, like the Limiter, look ahead so there is an inherent latency there, but like vestast said your program should compensate for that. Zero problems for me in Wavelab
LeeRosario
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it's the pretty colors.
They always get em with the pretty colors.
They always get em with the pretty colors.
LeeRosario
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Zetajazz44 said:
two words...
"Time Adjuster"
Zetajazz44
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LeeRosario said:two words...
"Time Adjuster"
I know how to get around latency by shifting my tracks (typically how I do it), but some of the guys in another forum, and vestast here in this forum, say that there is a delay-comp plugin (provided with the UAD-1) to use... Also, I've read that the FXPansion VST to RTAS wrapper is not compatible, but that UAD supplies one that will work...
I didn't say the UAD-1 is bad, didn't work, couldn't get around the latency issues...etc... I just said that he should, like me, research it before buying it...
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Raw-Tracks
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The latency issues are a ProTools only issue. You can easily work around the latency by using the UAD-1's "Delay Comp" plugin. Once you get the hang of it, it's very simple and not an issue at all. The UAD-1 comes with a custom version of the FXpansion wrapper. This version only works with the UAD-1 card, not any other VST plugs. I am almost positive that if you already have the full version of the FXPansion wrapper, that will wrap the UAD-1 plugs as well.
I absolutely love my UAD-1, sorry.
I absolutely love my UAD-1, sorry.
pipelineaudio
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the dx wrapped versions make some serious problems for a lot of sonar and vegas users.
There is no true DX versions of the plugs.
In many cases there are only certain orders you can put the fx in
The anti aliasing filters suck ass and can make some pretty obscene treble roll off
They can make trouble and are incompatible with most lookahead plugs on the same track
The created (not modeled) plugs like dreamverb and nigel have stupid ass buck rodgers interfaces instead of first and foremost being able to do what they are supposed to (nigel for instance has no direct gain control)
Many people report rendering issues
Stupid baby handholding tricks, like an unbypassable "automatic gain makeup" on the ex-1 and the inability to change the routing order of eq THEN compressor on the CS-1
aside from that Im a somewhat happy owner. The 1176 and LA-2A plugs are no joke
There is no true DX versions of the plugs.
In many cases there are only certain orders you can put the fx in
The anti aliasing filters suck ass and can make some pretty obscene treble roll off
They can make trouble and are incompatible with most lookahead plugs on the same track
The created (not modeled) plugs like dreamverb and nigel have stupid ass buck rodgers interfaces instead of first and foremost being able to do what they are supposed to (nigel for instance has no direct gain control)
Many people report rendering issues
Stupid baby handholding tricks, like an unbypassable "automatic gain makeup" on the ex-1 and the inability to change the routing order of eq THEN compressor on the CS-1
aside from that Im a somewhat happy owner. The 1176 and LA-2A plugs are no joke
Ford Van
Banned
Aside from the above mentioned problems, and the additional problems MANY people had getting rid of the "stutters", and "gaping" during renders, I am somewhat satisfied with the card.
This guy on the other hand seems to think the plugin's pale in comparison to the real thing. I don't totally disagree with him on that, but he also says that they don't sound any better than some plugin's you might already have. I DO disagree with that. But, you can read his article about overhyped gear: http://www.mojopie.com/what.html
It is a funny read if anything. I actually agree with some of it.
This guy on the other hand seems to think the plugin's pale in comparison to the real thing. I don't totally disagree with him on that, but he also says that they don't sound any better than some plugin's you might already have. I DO disagree with that. But, you can read his article about overhyped gear: http://www.mojopie.com/what.html
It is a funny read if anything. I actually agree with some of it.
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xstatic
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So far I have not had any of the problems listed above. For almost 4 years now my UAD card has been rock solid in 4 different systems. UA has also been great about continuing to release more cool plugins. They also have been excellent about addressing software and driver issues and constantly releasing updates and such. They seem to be truly commited to putting out a quality product in all aspects. The truth is that with all software and computer hardware, some users may have issues. This is not UA's fault. It's nearly impossible to test hardware and software with all of the different PC configurations available. That just one reason why Mac's are so nice.
As far as comparing the plugs to the originals though, its not really a fair comparrison. Algorithmically they are probably VERY similar. However, the sound of the vintage gear comes mostly from using hardware parts that affect audio signal, even though they are not supposed to be "processing" it. There are a lot of people who swear by sending signal through equipment, even in bypass mode. Everything is a tool when you are an engineer. Sometimes we do weird things to achieve certain results.
In the end however, when mixing in the box, I find the UA stuff to be excellent and neraly unreplacable. I would have a hard time if I had to choose though between UA software and the URS EQ bundle.
As far as comparing the plugs to the originals though, its not really a fair comparrison. Algorithmically they are probably VERY similar. However, the sound of the vintage gear comes mostly from using hardware parts that affect audio signal, even though they are not supposed to be "processing" it. There are a lot of people who swear by sending signal through equipment, even in bypass mode. Everything is a tool when you are an engineer. Sometimes we do weird things to achieve certain results.
In the end however, when mixing in the box, I find the UA stuff to be excellent and neraly unreplacable. I would have a hard time if I had to choose though between UA software and the URS EQ bundle.
pipelineaudio
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I think the problem came from the fact that UAD-1 put Direct-X on the box.
VST or AU guys, like undoubtedly, xstatic, should have good luck. DX guys on the other hand are running a wrapper. Its a BIG deal
So much so UAD themselves have actually given up on their half assed attempt and announced they will no longer support direct-x! If they would have kept a programmer themselves to do it, instead of trying to borrow a guy who is much busier and better suited making things like BFD, this may never have been an issue
VST or AU guys, like undoubtedly, xstatic, should have good luck. DX guys on the other hand are running a wrapper. Its a BIG deal
So much so UAD themselves have actually given up on their half assed attempt and announced they will no longer support direct-x! If they would have kept a programmer themselves to do it, instead of trying to borrow a guy who is much busier and better suited making things like BFD, this may never have been an issue
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xstatic
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Well, that was a fun article. I went to the authors link to his studio. I did happen to notice that he has sm57's, some MXL mics, and a POD though
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dpreed1
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Good catch XStatic 
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Marcellovalerio
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What i am actually wondering is how people that own it thinks it is compared to some of the cheaper (voxengo, kjaerhus, T-Racks, Ozone, Even Free Ones) plug-ins out there...
Actually the UAD-1 is cheap per plug-in, but I need so few of them...
Actually the UAD-1 is cheap per plug-in, but I need so few of them...
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xstatic
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I quite like them. Many people seem to not like the Dreamverb and Realverb. Personally, I don't mind them at all, you just need to ignore the presets and learn them a little, but in the end they are very flexible. The compressors feel wonderfull when I use them. Not qutie like the real deal, but they do share some characteristics. The Pultec EQ is an excellent EQ, and the Pultec Pro adds a high layer of usability to it. I have not really used most of the newer plugs, but have heard some good reports concerning the precision series stuff especially, and am very curious to hear the boss chorus. I have used Nigel occasionally for special vocal effects. It got the job done well, but I am not very familiar with Nigel so it took me a lot of messing around. The channel strip stuff I don't really care for. The chorus part is actually pretty cool, and I like it for short single delays. The channel EQ is actually pretty nice, but the way the channel strip is layed out seems odd to me... it just does not suit my workflow so I choose not to use it very often.
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ryanlikestorock
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Marcellovalerio said:
Voxengo makes amazing stuff for the price. Some of it looks really bad, but it sounds good and that's really all that matters. The Gliss EQ sounds nice to me.
T-Racks is shit. It should be in high school media classes so kids can learn how to use compression because it's cheap and I like the controls of it... but, it's not a professional product my any means.
Ozone sounded better than T-Racks the one time I got to hear it, but still not a pro product.
UAD-1 is so good for the money. The LA2A and Pultec Pro are worth the price of the card. I find myself using the cheapie 1176 quite a bit too. I don't have the good one.
I'm a big fan of UAD. It's not the hardware but it's still really good.
Ford Van
Banned
Yikes! You HAVE to get the 1176LN! The SE version really sucks in comparison.
Once you start using the 1176, it get's sort of contageous!
Once you start using the 1176, it get's sort of contageous!