Any thoughts on this song?

[antij]

Mike BL - Thanks for the comments--better late than never.

skids - Yea I know there's a few spots where the vocals aren't as up front; I haven't decided yet if I want to raise those spots up. Thanks for the thoughts.

kjam22 - I always prefer real drums too, but I just get by with what I have. Thanks for listening.

Triple M - Thanks for the kind words. I'll mess with the pre delay and see what I think.

 

[erichenryus]

woa! let up on the reverb a bit. try getting the balance right without any reverb first. right now it sounds like you're in a well.

agree with kjam on the drum comment.

 

[JuSumPilgrim]

More chords anybody? How about a melody that doesnt completely follow the root note.,.,.,never mind the bland progression.

Its a start, keep at it....one day, etc.

I guess the moral of the story is .. just bec recording equipment has become affordable doesnt mean it should be bought and used by everyone.

 

[antij]

More chords anybody? How about a melody that doesnt completely follow the root note.,.,.,never mind the bland progression.

Its a start, keep at it....one day, etc.

I guess the moral of the story is .. just bec recording equipment has become affordable doesnt mean it should be bought and used by everyone.

Wow, you're far too subtle. Say what you really think.

 

[JuSumPilgrim]

I was being subtle.

Sorry, Antij, I know Im not posting in the spirit of this supportive community but I think honesty while painful in the shortrun is great in the long run.

Peace.

 

[erichenryus]

I guess the moral of the story is .. just bec recording equipment has become affordable doesnt mean it should be bought and used by everyone.

dude, that was mean. i like what sluice said better. "just stick around and learn." yours came off more like, "get the hell out of here you amatuer"

antij,

it is good to get used to sarcastic critism though. helps you grow.

i would suggest, reposting this mix with no reverb at all and a new drum track. start there, get your foundation together, then start playing around with effects.

 

[ashulman]

Here we go again! Supercritic, where are you!?

 

[JuSumPilgrim]

I would suggest listening to less staind and maybe more mars volta for some clues on writing 4+ notes in a melody.

G'luck.

Nobody's early work is pretty. Not everybody posts it though.

 

[kjam22]

I was being subtle.

Sorry, Antij, I know Im not posting in the spirit of this supportive community but I think honesty while painful in the shortrun is great in the long run.

Peace.

Honestly, You're the type person I would want critiquing my stuff in this forum. I've got a wife and lots of friends who will say..."It's good. I like it.... WOW." I think often in this forum a person has to read between the lines to "get the lowdown".

That being said.... I recognize that a lot of musicians are VERY sensitive about their "art". Not everyone is as jaded as you or I. And most here take extra care not to hurt sensitive feelings. That's a good thing. But, I'm probably more often closer to your approach

 

[Mike BL]

I guess the moral of the story is .. just bec recording equipment has become affordable doesnt mean it should be bought and used by everyone.

I'm pretty new around here, and I purposely try to lay low and stay polite because I'm admittedly new to all this recording stuff, but I'm sorry...comments like this are completely fucking useless and basically just utter bullshit.

For the most part, people around here seem to refrain from getting up on their high horse and talking down to others -- and that's great because the very reason this place exists is for beginners to learn from either a) other people in the same position they're in, or b) kind professionals who are willing to take time to share their knowledge.

Simply telling someone that they lack the talent recquired to be buying/using recording gear is just plain mean. And in this case, though the song isn't exactly my cup of tea, you making a statement like that makes it pretty clear to me that your opinions are completely worthless. If you can't acknowledge or even see that antij at the very least shows a great deal of potential, I hesitate to think anyone should take your advice seriously.

Like I said, I'm new to this board and I'm new to recording, but I'm not new to the music world as a whole, and I'm certainly not new when it comes to dealing with other people in a nice way. I know that great art has been made by people with clearly less technical proficiency than antij, and I know that no one appreciates it when you act like an arrogant little fuck.

 

[Jagular]

Hey man – I downloaded a couple days ago and just now listening on cans at work due to some technical difficulties yesterday.

I’m not sure…but I think I might have gotten the second mix based on the comments. I think my biggest complaints have been already addressed (effects on the vox & a bit bass heavy). I think this is a hell of a good first effort. I’ve heard a lot worse than that. Don’t let any sarcastic bullshit get you down. Keep on pluggin man. You’re doing well. Listen & learn a lot from here. It’s a great place for that. Just take the sarcastic crap and get used to it. If one wants others to listen and comment on their music, one needs to get used to that.

Keep it up man.

 

[antij]

I would suggest listening to less staind and maybe more mars volta for some clues on writing 4+ notes in a melody.

G'luck.

Nobody's early work is pretty. Not everybody posts it though.

You know, I actually appreciated your first post becuase I want people to be honest. Really. But now you're just being a dick. I just think it's funny how you listen to one song and already have me pinned into a category. Just for the record, I don't listen to staind or any music at all like that. I know this song is very simple; i've written songs that are a lot more complex. I didn't think I had to prove myself though. Maybe I should have thrown in a gratuitous guitar solo so I could feel more secure about myself.

Honestly, I've heard some music on here that I really don't like. But I realize that not every song is going to appeal to me. So maybe I make music that appeals to only me--perfect, becuase I'm the only one I need to satisfy.

In a nutshell: I'm sorry you hate my song, but don't think you know what kind of music I like and who I am based on how many notes are in my melody.

 

[antij]

One more thing: What does everyone think about the recording quality? I realize no one likes the actual song, but does the recording sound that much worse than everything else posted around here by new people?

JuSum--your comments are welcome, but I already know you hate my song so dispense with the sarcasm.

 

[skids]

I realize no one likes the actual song

Antij-
I think you need to chill out a little. The first five posts were people who said they liked the song. I said I liked the song later on as well.

You will get posts of people criticizing you, maybe some with no foundation at all. You take what you can from every post and learn. Maybe you learned you want to put JuSum on ignore.

I think you have received some pretty good responses for your song, especially for a first post without a lot of posts to your name. Take them and make better song!

Best of luck...and I really do think it is a good song 4 notes and all!

 

[erichenryus]

One more thing: What does everyone think about the recording quality?

That's hard for me to judge with all of the reverb, which is kind of why i'm suggesting backing off on that completely and posting some dry or near dry mixed tracks.

The reverb you have now is really smearing whatever image you're trying to create. If you're like most homereccers your room is probably providing plenty of smearing of it's own, then the mic, then the preamp, then the converter, etc.....until you finally get to disk and then you go and layer a bunch of reflections on top of three to four stages of degredation and you wind up with a really blurry audio path imo. So it's very important to get it right from the start (mic positioning, room treatment, etc.).

just my two cents and i'm no pro.

 

[antij]

erichenryus - I'm really wondering if you're still talking about the 1st version I posted. I posted another link after the first 5 or 6 people commented on the reverb. I couldn't edit my original post, but here's the link again:
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists...id=3294&alid=-1

Is this still way too much reverb? Maybe I'll try it dry though.

skids - Thanks, I thought I was pretty "chilled out" though. I guess it's hard to convey myself through typing, but I'm not getting distressed over the comments I've got. I really appreciate people listening at all.

 

[kjam22]

erichenryus - I'm really wondering if you're still talking about the 1st version I posted. I posted another link after the first 5 or 6 people commented on the reverb. I couldn't edit my original post, but here's the link again:
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists...id=3294&alid=-1

Is this still way too much reverb? Maybe I'll try it dry though.

skids - Thanks, I thought I was pretty "chilled out" though. I guess it's hard to convey myself through typing, but I'm not getting distressed over the comments I've got. I really appreciate people listening at all.

This link doesn't work.....

 

[kjam22]

Okay... I went back up in the thread and found where you had posted the new link. It worked.

Reverb level is a lot better. Vocal needs to be louder?

Here's another musical suggestion that you can feel free to ignore if you choose...... especially on this type of music... it isn't necessary for the bass guitar to play the root of every chord. Often it is better to play 5ths or 3rds or 4ths or even 2nds in the right place and fill out a chord. Variety.

Now don't take this part bad.... but I still think you can take a pair of drum sticks, a tambourine, two cardboard boxes, and upside down plastic trash can and have a better drum sound. But that's just my opinion..... and I'm still a learner.

 

[antij]

but I still think you can take a pair of drum sticks, a tambourine, two cardboard boxes, and upside down plastic trash can and have a better drum sound.

Hey that sounds like a kit that I could actually afford; it would go well with my ghetto apartment. Seriously though, anyone know how to get better drum sounds with fruity loops? Or is that pretty much hopeless?

 

[erichenryus]

i still think there's a tad too much verb on the guitar......but that's also the only thing i can hear right now.

vox need to come up a lot and dynamics need to be tamed a bit also. that guitar is going in and out and in and out and in and out etc. etc......

i like the special effects but the drums really suck. sorry. one thing that really sounds odd about them is you got like this million minute tail on the piano reverb and the drums are dry as a bone. just sounds weird.