any comments about these two, Delta 1010 and Motu 2408 MK2 (PCI 324)

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which converter is better, i'm not really into hi sample rate (88.2 up) right now, i just need more inputs...but i do concern about the sounds, well...at least in 44.1...
 
im thinking 2 delta 1010 vs. 2408 mk2 plus a ADA 8000

somebody please...
 
oh...I'm on PC...and no, i won't change to Apple,not that i hate it, i like it but i just can't afford it..i have good and stable PC setup, and i know inside out of my PC.. :o
 
Ultra said:
Subjective.

I like my 1010.
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actually, im using a 1010 right now, but i want at least 16 i/o...and if i can get a used 2408 mk2 and a used ADA 8000..it will be cheaper than to have 2 Delta 1010...and i'm kinda worry about using 2 audio PCI running at the same time...but, never try it though..
 
I'm using at Delta 1010LT at the moment and I absolutely love it, it's been absolutely trouble free for me since I installed it.
 
I'm a 2408 mkII user and have been for years. I've had it in 3 different PCs and soon a fourth. I use mine along with an Alesis HD24/BRC combo all clocked with a GenX6 and couldn't be happier with it.
 
What's your computer specs? You can and should be able to run 4 1010s side by side in one system running above 2GHz
 
personally, I like the sound of the Motu better than any M audio. However, I certainly prefer the M Audio over that Behri. All anti Behri sentiment aside, that thing just sounds bad.

One thing to consider though is that the older MOTU pci 324 card especially had a lot of conflicts with different chipsets. Also, don't count on MOTU tech support. They are one of the worst I have EVER dealt with. If you do buy a MOTU used, make sure you get an official ownership transfer. I would contact MOTU in advance to make absolutely sure that you do it properly. If not, they won't even answer questions for you. At least that was my experience with them. When I finally did get them to help, they couldn't figure it out. They wanted me to pay shipping both ways and for their time. That would have been fairly normal if it was just shipping themn the MOTU product. However, they actually wanted me to ship them my whole tower for 4-8 weeks. I could not even believe that they suggested that.
 
my PC specs:
AMD Athlon XP 2800+
dual 512MB kingston RAM
Geforce FX 128MB

hmm...yes,is it hard to do the ownership transfer with MOTU, i know it's very easy with digidesign to this thing..and yes the PCI 324 it's kinda old...but i heard MOTU does have better conversion than M-Audio...any comments on ADA 8000?despite the fact that it's a Behringer :)
 
Track Rat said:
I'm a 2408 mkII user and have been for years. I've had it in 3 different PCs and soon a fourth. I use mine along with an Alesis HD24/BRC combo all clocked with a GenX6 and couldn't be happier with it.
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what's your computer specs...some people said that MOTU doesn't go along that well with PC..
 
For the last few years it was a Pentium 933 PIII 640 MEGs of ram with 98 S.E. until it died about a month ago. Now it's a 700 MHz PIII, 640 MEGs of ram running 98 S.E. This was my internet machine that I pressed into service. I've heard folks tell horror stories about MOTU but I've never ever had an issue. The difference between the two is the 700 won't run as many plugins as the 933 but it'll do 24 tracks of 24/44.1 just fine.
 
thanks for your suggestions...i think i will stick with the Delta 1010 setup, since MOTU will be focusing more on their newest system...and Lemontree said that it will be just fine to run multiple 1010 with 2 Ghz and up processor..
 
Motu won't claim support for the 324 card on AMD systems. I had three different AMD systems a while ago that had three similar, but slightly different VIA chipsets. The first worked great with the PCI 324, the second wouldn't work at all. The third worked, but wasn't as stable as the first. They also claim problems with s\certain RAM and video cards. Motu does however seem to be pretty flawless on a MAC.

The bottom line is that in my opinion the Motu sounds better than the M Audio. A noticable difference to me. However, none of that matters if it doesn't work right and I am not sure if I would want 8 channels of Behringer in there either.
 
I have been using a Delta 1010 for several years now, and I'm very happy with the quality of recording I get through it.
I would love a MOTU 896, but can't justify it at the moment.

Only downside is that there aren't any preamps in the 1010 (but that could also be a good thing if you're picky about preamps) and everything is cabled into the back of the rack (need a torch and a good diet to squeeze in behind everything to patch/repatch if necessary) ;)

Dags
 
oh yeahh..896, i wish i have the budget too....recently,i have my 1010 i/o's on a patchbay, definitely a life saviour..
 
It is hard to really compare the cards, because they have very different capabilities.

IF the M-Audio could do 24 in's AND out's at the same time, would it work as well as the MOTU? Hard to say.

I have experience with both cards. This is my short thoughts.

Delta 1010 - Drivers worked well with everything. The converters are VERY marginal though! They improve with a dedicated word clock applied to them

MOTU 2408mkII - The drivers were a bit weird. I had some "issues" using it with Sonar. When I would Stop playing the project, I would get this weird "SQEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK" via the monitors! This ONLY happened via the ADAT outputs. Otherwise, the converters sound MUCH better than the Delta 1010's (they sound better than the 1010 with a external word clock too!).

If I HAD to pick one, it would be the MOTU, but I wouldn't be that happy having to pick that.

Good luck.
 
Ford Van said:
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IF the M-Audio could do 24 in's AND out's at the same time, would it work as well as the MOTU? Hard to say.
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It does it flawlessly.

I have a 1010 and two 410 PCIs, 18in/30out.
 
FWIW, I have an EMU 1820 (PCI) and ADA 8000. EMU has great drivers and support. The combination locked in with absolutely no effort and sounds pretty good. They aren't the greatest pres in the world, but they are incredibly quiet. I use them for drums so I don't need pristine sound and I'm kicking lots of level anyway.

If you want really great converters, the 1820M has some really good ones. You can get that and an ADA8000 for under $750.
 
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