Any banjo players?

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Hey!

I'm thinking about buying myself a banjo. I tinkered around on one years ago and would like to pursue it again. The problem is... I just don't know what to look for as far as models and brand. I'm looking for a 5 string, quality build for under $1000.
 
Buy used... and get a Deering Sierra....no frills (like a bunch of neck inlay...just dots), quality banjo. Retail $2g, but used for half of that a lot of times.

btw... expect to spend about a grand to get something decent...especially if you hit any jams. Anything below that usually is pretty much a student model.....unlike the guitar world.

http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/ <---- check that place out, ask the same question (as it has been asked a zillion times there), and check their want ads.. Some pretty trustworthy people there.
 
A used deering will still cost a pretty penny. Don't overlook some of the stuff coming out of japan and china. I picked up a used Kent.. which is pretty damn good quality with some nice dressing for $400. It's a quality instrument.. just happens to be made in japan.
 
Too bad, I just sold my Gibson RB180 long neck way under value at $700. Still have three more banjos.

I'd go with Deering also. They have some entry level banjos that are pretty good.
 
philboyd studge said:
I'd go with Deering also. They have some entry level banjos that are pretty good.
Can you give me a couple of model names?
 
Their Goodtime series... like the Goodtime Special. I had one of those...great players, but they won't cut thru the heavy acoustic guitar players in a jam.

I'd be leary of some of the Asian stuff too...with the exception of the Desert Rose banjos... Watch out for aluminum parts and just fancy fixins to try and dress it up. I'd also stay away from the Fender stuff.
 
ok here is what i like

if you can just pick up something used that sounds good..
but new stuff i like these

Gold Tone makes some good banjo's a little known ompany that makes some good stuff... and not bad in price as well check em out here

the other thing to check out is the high end Fender banjos i think about $600 or so not bad, that one is here

this place has the Gold Tone banjos at good prices as well as the best prices on Martin guitars and gibsons and you name it all of its good stuff, i have been to the store they have all kinds of awesome stuff there if you can spend a whole day there sometime DO IT! you will have a blast. they are here
good luck and have fun with them
 
Easto said:
Can you give me a couple of model names?

Thats it - Deering Goodtime

If you could find a used Deering Boston model it would be a good choice also. My Deering is a style II from '81 that became the Boston. No tone ring but very loud and convertable from resonator to open back be removing some hardware and the back.

My other banjos are an Ode from '64 and an Aria Pro II 'Country Joe'....the only Asian banjo I've ever liked, and the one I use for most stage situations. Here's some shots of one that looks like mine:
http://bcbrown.net/bluegrass/banjo/aria.html
If you can find one by all means get it. I've got a clear head on it so you can the sunburst flame maple on the inside. Woodwork, inlay and carving are superior to Gibson, while the hardware is not quite as good as top Stellings, Deerings, or Gibsons, but still nice. Someday I'd like to put a Mastertone archtop tone ring in it. Anyway, there are very few of them but I did see this nice RB 250 Aria copy on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10177&item=3781202008&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
 
Thanks,

Although I know a lot about guitars I'm really in the dark about banjos and all the terminology. For instance... what's a "tone ring". I'm keeping an eye on eBay for either a Deering Boston or Sierra. I've been checking out different prices around the net in order to compare them against eBay prices. I will enlighten myself a bit more before I "pull the trigger" since the link to the banjo above has a few disputes whether it's a copy or not and if I'm going to spend $700-$1000 for a used instrument I would like to know I'm getting the real deal.

I live in So Calif and I'll probably take a trip to McCabe's and see what info I can extract from some of their people.
 
you know...we haven't really asked you what kind of banjo music you will be playing, and I guess kinda assumed it would be Scuggs style bluegrass....at least I did. Also, will you want it just for practice to get the chops back and/or will you being using it to play with others....since bluegrass jams seem pretty popular and easy to find.

One thing about the Deering Boston and the Deering Sierra...
first off...let me tell you about tone rings... That is the part that the head is streached over, and transmits the sound. Basically, cheaper banjos do not have them. There is one popular banjo that has one made out of wood, called the Deering John Hardy, but is pretty expensive.....gives a darker kinda sound.

But..to me when I think of "snappy banjo" sounds, I equate it to pellets hitting of a big brass bell...with limited sustain.... a nice "ping" to it.

Ok...back to the Boston and the Sierra. The Boston is more a budget banjo, just verging on pro level...to a degree. It has a steel tone ring, and conventional guitar tuners... which btw, you will see on cheaper banjos too...even though they are easier to tune with with higher gear ratios.....like an 16:1 for guitar tuners and 4:1 for banjo STAIGHTLINE planatary tuners. The Sierra, being the bottom of the heap in a PRO banjo uses a brass bell tone ring, like all the more expensive banjos. Generally they are all brass, and each company more or less raves about their tone rings, how they were made,etc... since they are such an important part of the sound in BLUEGRASS music.

As mentioned, the upper end Goldtone stuff is ok too, but really not as popular as an axe a "real" banjo player would use. I might equate them to some of the more quality Korean guitars on the market nowadays. Now, I use the word "real" because MOST serious players have a couple grand in their instrument. Names like Stelling (really bright), Deering (famous American made instruments...especially its beginner line with the Goodtimes), and of course the ubiquitous Gibson name....probably the most popular, with the prewar models being the holy grail of modern bluegrass sound.

I would say, without hesitation, all the sub $1000 with fancy ornamation on it is money wasted on looks, and some of it is just fake and cheap.

In all honesty, at this point, I think I would recommend a Deering Goodtime banjo (with or without the resonator...the "back" of the banjo...makes it help project fowards, giving it the illusion of being louder). You can get one for about $250, they will have NO TRUSS ROD..but not to worry, the necks are perfect...but skinny to some. The Goodtimes are GREAT players, but look kinda unconventional to most. IF and WHEN you want to upgrade, you'll easily get your money back out of it...or better yet!! ...keep it as a "throw in the car" banjo that you take camping, to the park, etc.

Anyway, without you really knowing about banjos, I'd be a little hesitant to drop some serious money on them before you knew what you REALLY wanted. Banjos are much more "hotrodded" than guitars, imo...and may even want a custom built one for $2000+ when it is all said and done. ..and instrument that'll fit you like a glove, is YOUR sound and you'll keep FOREVER.
Even with a new GREAT banjo, you might switch bridges, tailpieces, and don't ask about setting up a banjo at this point!!

Good luck...and you've now been inducted back into the world of the worst musician jokes on the planet... banjo player jokes!!
 
mixmkr said:
Good luck...and you've now been inducted back into the world of the worst musician jokes on the planet... banjo player jokes!!

Oh no, has it really come to that! lol.

Thank you very much for your input. And I guess I should answer that most important question... what style? Bluegrass! But I think you've answered most of my questions. I'm going to do some more searching over the web and see what I can come up with. Personally, and I don't know why... I just like the way the Deering Sierra looks. I'll have to get my hands on one and see how they feel. I live in Southern California and there are plenty of stores selling quality banjos. This will give me the opportunity to spend a weekend driving around and seeing what I can see.

Thanks again.
 
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