Antares Vocal Producer - work with Mackie 1202?

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Hi folks. I am considering getting the Antares AVP-1. I currently have a Mackie 1202vlz as my main mixer and mic preamp. I was reading that the AVP-1 is for -10. Will it work if I go into my Mackie and from the Mackie to the AVP-1? I am confused on this.

Thank you for your help.

-Aaron.
 
It'll work, but you'll have to go out one of the aux sends into the AVP-1, and from there to the soundcard input, or into the line ins of the mixer, and out from there to your sound card inputs.

I don't know how you have it all hooked up, so it's hard to say.

I have a friend who uses one of these regularly, but he never tracks with it, he sends the tracks back thru later, so he has the original take unaltered.

This is the best way probably, assuming you have a decent, clean sound card.

And if you don't mind the extra d/a a/d steps.



They really need to put spidf on that thing next time.
 
Thank you. So will it work (for tracking) to go into the AVP with the mic, then the AVP into the mackie, and the mackie to the sndcard? Or is that ass backwards?

Thanks again.
 
No, although the AVP is a great unit, it is not a Mic Pre, it has no XLR (mic) inputs on it.

Like I said tho, I wouldn't track with it anyway. It's best to use after the fact. It can so drastically alter the recording, that you wouldn't want to use it for tracking, unless you just use maybe the mic modeler and a LITTLE bit of compression.

It'll work, but you'll have to go out one of the aux sends of the mixer into the AVP-1, and from there to the soundcard input.

Problem with that is monitoring the sound of the AVP while tracking.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Since when?
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Blue bear - you don't like the unit? Can you expand on that? I haven't made my decision yet...
 
Originally posted by espskully Blue bear - you don't like the unit? Can you expand on that? I haven't made my decision yet...
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The h/w version of the autotune doesn't work very in the full stand-alone unit, so the stripped down version that's in the AVP will be even less useful...

(side-note - if you want the Autotune's functionality, only the s/w version is really usable - forget the h/w versions altogether)

The AVP runs only on the semi-pro -10dBV gain structure, limiting its interfacing abilities with a lot of other gear.

The modelling features are questionable at best.... you're better off with a high-quality EQ...

And the other features are really non-essential -- the de-esser won't work as well as a dedicated unit.

Overall, while it might appear to be fully-laden with features, when you start to dig under the covers, you're not really getting good value for your money when you look at the usability and performance of the unit. It promises a lot, but delivers very little.
 
I already have Autotune VST and rarely use it. I am more interested in it for the mic mod/compressor/tube emulator and the presets to get some more interesting sounding vocals. I don't have the $ to drop for a few good mics or a tube preamp (I'm sure this doesn't compare to the real thing). I may be able to get it for under $200 - so I figure why not.

Have you used it yourself?
 
espskully said:
I am more interested in it for the mic mod/compressor/tube emulator and the presets to get some more interesting sounding vocals.
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Like I said in my response to your PM, you can get better value and more interesting color from other units...... the mic modelling and tube emulator is just nonsense, nothing more.... it's marketing hype to appeal to DIY'ers........


espskully said:
Have you used it yourself?
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Nope, not directly - I don't have to to realize how crappy it is! (I know what the hardware version of the autotune is like, and that's enough of a tip-off!)

Mic-modelling is nothing more than bullshit, so I don't need to hear that to make a determination either!
 
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Hey thanks man - I didn't receive your PM - is it supposed to go to my email address?
 
espskully said:
Hey thanks man - I didn't receive your PM - is it supposed to go to my email address?
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I don't think so - you might get an email notification if you have that option enabled, but otherwise you have to check your PM box from your profile!
 
espskully said:
I already have Autotune VST and rarely use it. I am more interested in it for the mic mod/compressor/tube emulator and the presets to get some more interesting sounding vocals. I don't have the $ to drop for a few good mics or a tube preamp (I'm sure this doesn't compare to the real thing). I may be able to get it for under $200 - so I figure why not.

Have you used it yourself?
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Screw the AVP. If you want effects then get a TC M300 or a used a Lexicon.
 
espskully said:
What models of Lexicon would you recommend?
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Whatever you can afford. They don't make any crap. Their older stuff is vanilla reverbs and delays so get whatever you need. I'm afraid I can't remember the model numbers (even the one I have, lol).

The older Lexicons are a bit limited compared to the newer processors and are not as flexible so you might be better off with the TC for a one and only effects unit then add a Lexicon down the road.
 
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