Antares Autotune Help

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Hey...i use AutoTune for some minor adjustments in my vocals...yesterday, i recorded some vocals and sounds like some autotuning needs to be done to it. Im doing a remake of a song(non-english)..my question is that, do i really have to 'graphically' tune up the problem? or should i set the musical scale to something and the rest the software will fix? and if i set the musical scale, do i set it to the scale the ORIGINAL song is on? i just wanted some feedback. i have been wondering for a long time cause i really have problems keeping my voice in tune when singing.
 
What do you mean 'the scale the original song was in' ?

You would set it for the key that it is being played in now. The automatic mode doesn't work very well for vocals that are just a little out, if yours are really out, good luck.

I only use the graphic mode. It's the only way to get good results.

BTW, when a singer has really bad pitch problems, they tend to have a general lack of control. After the pitch is corrected, you still have timing, dynamic and enunciation problems. Auto tune can not turn a bad performance into a good one.
 
for light work auto may be OK. be careful you never know what you'll get though. (you can just put it on cromatic)
but i'm totally with fairview, manual 99.9% of the time.
 
But isnt the graphical mode very time consuming since u have to locate which word or line was out of tune?
 
Yes, but why would you want to auto tune stuff that wasn't out of tune. Do you want it done well or in the next 5 minutes.
 
Hmm..sounds reasonable.

i have one more question...i tried to use the graphical view today..umm...i have 3 lines of vocals. 1st line is on E, 2nd is on D#, and 3rd is on C. on my recorded vocals, the first 2 lines are fine as they are close to the correspoding keys, but the 3rd line's pitch is off the key. so i used the Line tool in the graphical view and drawed a straight on the C note, of the 3rd line. i drew the line on C2 and not C3 because the pitch is way too high on C3. but when i drew the line on C2, the pitch seems very low. am i doing this correctly? can someone please help me out. im really a newbie at autotuners...am i suppose to draw a 'straight' line and not a curvy one?
 
Yes, you draw a straight line. You have to use the note in the octave that the person was singing. If the note doesn't sound right once you have corrected it, that wasn't the right note and the singer was way off. Pick another note.
 
But what if thats the exact note i want to get? Well, i followed ur steps...i drew a straight up on the C key..but they vocals sound very weird..as in the pitch goes crazy.
And if i pick another note, then the song wouldnt sound the same, right?
 
It looks like your line is too long and there are certain points where some notes are different and you have to draw another line for that, zoom into that part to see where´s the problem.
 
Aha..i understand now...man, i find it so difficult to use the graphical view cause its very hard to locate the exact location of the detuned note.
 
Can't you trim the track so that you can just work on the phrase in question?

I usually make a cut in the track in any silient section just before and just after the "offending note(s)." Then when I load it in autotune, there are just a couple of notes to deal with. If you are trying to work with 20 or 30 seconds of singing (or more), it will be much more difficult to locate the note.

In graphical mode, there is a Track Pitch button. Turn that on and use the audition feature. This will play the section and should "draw" a graph of what was actually sung. You can then compare that to the note grid to see what note is out of tune. Unless the note was really bad, it will probably be between two of the grid lines (i.e, between two notes). Draw a straight line on the correct note. Make it the same length as the existing note.
 
studiomaster said:
But what if thats the exact note i want to get? Well, i followed ur steps...i drew a straight up on the C key..but they vocals sound very weird..as in the pitch goes crazy.
And if i pick another note, then the song wouldnt sound the same, right?
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also, watch out for short brakes in the original pitch line, you'll have to work around these.
flat out, some people are harder to tune than others, because auto tune just has a difficult time tracking certain peoples voices.

it hates me, when i scream it can't tell what octave i'm in. seriously.
it puts a tiny vertical dash on say...... c2, then a tiny vertical dash on c3 a ton of them very close together, this continues until i stop screaming.

so if i have to tune a scream of my own, i actually have to use auto. (or it will get pulled between the 2 octaves like a yo-yo)
i usually just redo it.
 
giraffe said:
also, watch out for short brakes in the original pitch line, you'll have to work around these.
flat out, some people are harder to tune than others, because auto tune just has a difficult time tracking certain peoples voices.

it hates me, when i scream it can't tell what octave i'm in. seriously.
it puts a tiny vertical dash on say...... c2, then a tiny vertical dash on c3 a ton of them very close together, this continues until i stop screaming.

so if i have to tune a scream of my own, i actually have to use auto. (or it will get pulled between the 2 octaves like a yo-yo)
i usually just redo it.
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This happens because Auto tune ignores consonant sounds (shhh, doesn't have a note, for example) If the gravel in your voice is more prominent than the pitch, it ignores it or glitches.

When you see the line an octave down, that's a good thing. You can tune that, you just have to tune it in that octave. If you tune all the little broken lines in the same octaves that the lines are in, it will work.
 
The worst thing about Auto-Tune...

...is that the singers who know I have it expect miracles.
 
Farview said:
This happens because Auto tune ignores consonant sounds (shhh, doesn't have a note, for example) If the gravel in your voice is more prominent than the pitch, it ignores it or glitches.

When you see the line an octave down, that's a good thing. You can tune that, you just have to tune it in that octave. If you tune all the little broken lines in the same octaves that the lines are in, it will work.
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What little broken lines? :o
 
When you push the 'track pitch' button and play the audio, it will make little squiggly lines telling you the pitch of the vocal. When your voice breaks or gets gravelly, the pitch lines are broken (as in not continuous) You need to correct all these little ones separately.

Did you read the manual?
 
Oh alright..yea..i can see those broken lines now:)

by the way guys, when u guys autotune, do u highlight one part of the vocals and then apply the autotune to it? and the vocal im currently working on..first line is on E, 2nd on D and 3rd of C..the 3rd one is off-tune..so i just highlight the 3rd line only right and autotune it? However, the 3rd line is something like on F..and when i draw a line an octave down or up, it sounds too high or low. Or do i draw a line closest to the key i sung?
 
studiomaster said:
However, the 3rd line is something like on F..and when i draw a line an octave down or up, it sounds too high or low. Or do i draw a line closest to the key i sug?
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Something like an F???? It
either IS an F, or it is some other note.

You draw the line on the note it is supposed to be. Generally it should be something close to what was actually sung (as indicated by the graph that is automtically drawn when you audition the section). If it the actual note is too off from the note that was sung, you are better off resinging the part, since autotune won't do a very good job in that case.

And you are confusing me when you say the first line, the second line, etc. Do you mean the first note? Usually a "line" is comprised of a series of notes. :confused:
 
No no...i sung 3 lines. and those are the notes i was supposed to sing on. since im remaking this song, i matched the vocals with the corresponding note. and it came out as that. ok so i sung the 3rd line on F. but its not suppose to be on F, but on C. and when i draw a line on C, it sounds terrible cause i moved the pitch an octave up/down.
 
studiomaster said:
No no...i sung 3 lines. and those are the notes i was supposed to sing on. since im remaking this song, i matched the vocals with the corresponding note. and it came out as that. ok so i sung the 3rd line on F. but its not suppose to be on F, but on C. and when i draw a line on C, it sounds terrible cause i moved the pitch an octave up/down.
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Do you mean each entire line of the song is the same exact note? What is this, the one note samba??

Autotune will not correct an F note to a C note (at least not without obvious artifacts), they are too far apart. You would be somewhat lucky if you can correct an F to a F# without aritfacts.

However, I'm still not sure that is what you are saying. Do you play an instrument? If you play the line of the song your are referring to, is it all the same note?
 
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