another xmas remix - Emmanuel

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(but see below for an updated link)

I posted the original of this last year - on this version, I used just my older daughter's vox track (her friend also sang last year). My younger daughter and I added a jingling bell track.

My older daughter can't sing - very poor pitch control, etc., not that she's ever held herself out as a singer, so no shame in that. I think her voice has a nice timbre, and that she could be a really good singer if she wanted to (and practiced a lot). Because of pitch and phrasing issues, as well as harshness in the original track, I *massively* processed the vocal track - high pass filter (get rid of some microphone stand bumps) -> UA Fairchild compresser -> Pitch shifter (using automation to jackhammer a couple of places where it was way off) -> Pitch Correction (Logic's autotune) -> UA Roland Echo thing with slapback -> Stillwell Rocket compressor. I tried removing plugs from that chain, but I couldn't really do it without the track sounding worse. I also used a new Logic feature to address some phrasing problems.

I played the 12 string guitar, miced with two MK-012s, an ACM-583 in omni a few feet back, and with a track from the built in pickup - microphaser on the pickup track and the others are dry.

The piano melody is midi controlled samples that was there really just as a guide for the singers, but I left it in.



EDIT: - due to popular revulsion, here's *retrack* of the vocals, now with less Lord-of-darkness going on

 
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The guitar and stuff sounds nice, but the vocals are a train wreck. And I'm not trying to talk bad about your kid - mine couldn't carry a tune in a bucket - I'm just saying that all the processing is too obvious. The corrections hit hard. It sounds like a creepy robot. Maybe have her re-track it piece by piece. Track a phrase or line, stop, make sure it's good, do the next one. Or do many vocal tracks and piece one together with the good parts.
 
Heh - thanks - maybe it's because I'm the father of the robot, it sounds less like satan to me than it will to everyone else.

Trust me, though, it ain't getting any better with a re-track :)
 
id just leave the pitch correction out...maybe it'll sound more charming a bit out of tune...just a bit weird as is..

nice mixing apart from that
 
It takes guts to sing in front of a mic when your unsure of yourself. Take it from me I know. I sound like Alfalfa with with a head cold and a bad case of hemroids.
 
dodgeaspen said:
It takes guts to sing in front of a mic when your unsure of yourself. Take it from me I know. I sound like Alfalfa with with a head cold and a bad case of hemroids.
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me: Kermit the frog, with a rope around his neck in the process of getting hemorrhoids.
 
Well -- turns out that universal condemnation is a good motivator, and she agreed to re-track! :D - I updated the first post with a new link. I left the old one so that people wouldn't think you guys were being too harsh :D

This time I'm using a similar chain, but without the jackhammer pitch shift - I applied just a totally-natural dose of pitch correction - just the amount my momma used to give me when I was a little baby (oh, that she had given me more!). I also made no phrasing corrections, but I might, since these really don't sound bad with the new Logic.

Greg_L said:
Maybe have her re-track it piece by piece. Track a phrase or line, stop, make sure it's good, do the next one. Or do many vocal tracks and piece one together with the good parts.
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only got two takes - one of them ruined by the three y.o. and the missus, but I did manage to patch in the last chorus to replace the one on the better track where she started cracking up -- you get what you can...
 
antichef said:
only got two takes - one of them ruined by the three y.o. and the missus, but I did manage to patch in the last chorus to replace the one on the better track where she started cracking up -- you get what you can...
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Haha. One time I was doing a vocal track that was really giving me trouble. I finally had a good take going and the dogs started barking at something. :mad:
 
Sounds more natural this time. Is she using a backing track or did you record the backing yourself?
 
no backing, except for the missus telling us to knock off the racket, and one or two planes flying over (every *#*!! 7 minutes to Hobby airport). Could it be the slapback echo?
 
The retracked one sounds better, Chef.;)
The problem with her is she's singing mostly from the throat and chest and not the diaphragm. It takes some practice to learn to control breath while singing. But heck, we're all proud of our kids and that's the way it should be.

Joey :):):):)
 
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