Analog vs. Digital

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sweetnubs said:
regarless if the eniac computers were tube based they still stored information in binary form.

Bleh.....owned....I concede.....
Im getting bent because there 127 calls in the queue and i dont feel like working heh
 
Analog: Rolling a ball down a slope.
Digital: Rolling a ball down the stairs.

:-)
 
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regebro

Good analogy.

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D@mn people, lighten up a lil!!



BTW, what sweetnubs said!!:cool:
 
sweetnubs said:
digital is a binary representation of an analog signal.

[nitpick mode]
It doesn't have to be binary. It just have to be in discreet steps, as opposed to continous.
[/nitpick mode]

I'm sorry guys, but ecs113 provided the correct answer to the question already in the first answer. You may want help with understanding the answer, but the answer *is* the correct answer. :)
 
regebro:

in the world of professional PCM audio there is only one mode of storage and that is binary. ones and zeros, on or off. i'm speaking of actual current pratice in the field and not theory.
 
It was the correct answer and 'nubs did a good job elucidating it. You folks still think he's a troll?

Anyhow, 'nubs, could you explain "domains" a bit more? First time I've heard this term and how it may be similar to digital quantization. What's interesting is the implication that analogue cannot possible be more 'real' than digital--what an overused subjective term.

I just purchased an Otari MTR12 and I'd like to contest the earlier claim that cheap digital is better than cheap analogue. Depends on what kinda cheap, portastudio-cheap or old pro gear cheap. I know this thread wasn't specifically about tape, but, jeez, what a pain in the ass it is! I like the way it smells tho.

Oh, does anyone know what the deal is with the digital format (Sony??) that doesn't use pulse code modulation?
 
deadleafecho said:
Hey if you wanna get pissy about it, the earliest COMPUTERS werent even digital, heard of ENIAC? So technically its possible to consider an analog sound being processed by a computer. If your going to use a common term in an uncommon way,COMPUTER, qualify that maybe? And i never said you were bashing digital, i was refering more to the "...see why I think (and almost everyone else) analog sounds so much better than digital... " comment..but maybe i should have qualified that 8)

I am not flaming here, I promise, but ENIAC was not the first computer, contrary to popular belief. Bletchley Park, the English decryption facility during World War II, made a top secret computer, called Colossus, during the war, which was kept top secret until the 1970s. It was the first true programmable computer, and was used to decrypt the German code, Lorenz. Lorenz was the most complex of the German codes, and was used for the most sensitive communication of the German high command, and Bletchley Park had it cracked in 1943.

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And as far as I know, both Eniac and Colossus were digital. Eniac however, was decimal, and not binary.

Small side note: Colossus was used to break the Geihemschreiber and Enigma codes. Some swedish math genius actually succeded in breaking the Geihemschreiber code a couple of years before Colossus. He did it using pen and paper. :)
 
regebro said:

Small side note: Colossus was used to break the Geihemschreiber and Enigma codes.

Colossus was not used to break Enigma, which they had broken several years before they made Colossus.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know about ciphers, check this out:

http://www.codesandciphers.org.uk/

Very detailed, and very technical. I have not been able to get through hardly any of it.

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By the way, if you want to read an interesting book, Cryptonomicon, by Neal Stephenson is cool. It has a lot of historically factual information about Bletchley Park, mixed in with other aspects of the story.

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M.K. Gandhi
 
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