Dr. Varney
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Mine does. It imparts a fair amount of hiss on the FX channel. I'm not sure if that's normal...?
Very nice. Something to look forward to...
Dr. V
Mine does. It imparts a fair amount of hiss on the FX channel. I'm not sure if that's normal...?
Very nice. Something to look forward to...
Dr. V
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
I cant speak to that incident directly, as I have not seen it but you gotta notice the zealotry of someone wishing to go so far as to buy a pair of the speakers he dislikes just to take them apart.
Look, I don't intend to take the role of defending Bose (as if they really needed it), i just have a very low tolerance for Internut-reinforced myths who's main raison d'etre is to try and over-simplify subjects for folks who want the real world to be simpler than it really is.
And, for the record, while I am not a big fan of Behringer by any measure, some of the myths surrounding their reverse engineering of Mackie products, while having some small kernel of truth behind them, have become way overblown and rather untrue through the filter of the Internuts. Behri has certainly tried to ride the coattails of Mackie's sales success by putting out almost identically configured products and even similarly-sounding names (Mackie comes out with their "Onyx" line, closely followed by Bheri's "Xenyx" line, for example) that try to emulate some of the same characteristics, but I dare anybody to come up with a verifyable, un-retouched photo of a Behri circuit board that had/has a Mackie logo on it or had/has the identical circuit design right down to the same error in construction that a Mackie board had, like the myths claim. And yes, Behri does also make a couple of products that are good, but overall their products are usually nothing much to write home about; there's a reason why their their stuff is often so relatively inexpensive.
And what I find hilarious is the same Internuts who pass on the conspiracy theory stories about Bheri stealing from Mackie are usually the first to pass on similarly smelly stories about Mackie, which is a brand that is far from immune from the conspiracy myth phenom.
Doc, you're a pretty smart guy - at least that's the impression I've gotten from your posts thus far. When you read stuff on the Internet, think about it. Does what you read REALLY have the ring of truth to it? Does it REALLY make sense or is it one of those stories that has that sound that folks easily *want* to believe, but really sounds kind of fantastic when you step back for a minute? Are the story on this web page and the opinion on that web page - and a hundred other pages - worded so similarly so that it sounds more like they are just parroting each other with a "conventional wisdom" rather than actually speaking with any kind of knowledge or authority on the subject? Remember, on the Internut, the number pf people who say something is not necessarily an indication of it's level of truth, because there are a billion people parroting what they want to believe and not actually speaking from any basis of actual knowledge or experience.
G.
kcearl
I see deaf people
Id be going through your manual...this isn't right
I use effects units through my FX sends and the only noise I get is from the effects units..and then its just a matter of adjusting the gains depending on what effect is being used...all my recordings go through my mixer generally with outboard effects, 2 emp's and a gfx1000, these are older noisier units but it seldom shows when I record
mind you Im hardly top 40
Its a fantastic amp..ive had it for years along side a couple of NADs which I also loved but this this is so compact and solidly constructed Ive always hung on to it..seems little point in a noisy downtown apartment..generally if Im getting unwelcome noise in my phones its from construction outside lol
Dr. Varney
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Couldn't agree more, Glen.
Way I see it: You can spend your time dissing stuff or you can spend it enjoying stuff. But I suppose if he'd found something up with the speakers, he might have felt it his duty to pass it on. I don't know, I wasn't looking over his shoulder.
It's good talking to you, Glen. Your viewpoint is very down to earth and realistic.
Dr. V
Dr. Varney
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It's not a great problem when I record, either. I tend to use it only on the guitar and because I'm often using distortion (and I'm not mad on 'clean' distortion) it seems to blend in.
Then it might be worth noting, I don't have spectacular pre-amping at my disposal. The gain can sometimes be quite high.
I can lower the hiss, by reducing the level of Aux Send 2. 1 & 2 seem to be IN & OUT (pre & post?), respectively.
Dr. V
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dementedchord
Psychotic State alumni ch
mackie v behrenger....
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1997_June_18/ai_19518852/
btw.. i personally have seen the behr boards that say mackie on them... while working as a tech at a local store... so much for interweb madness...
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1997_June_18/ai_19518852/
btw.. i personally have seen the behr boards that say mackie on them... while working as a tech at a local store... so much for interweb madness...
kcearl
I see deaf people
and Ford used to make really crap cars...oh yeah that was back in History too 
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
Aw man, that explains why I always think my mixes sound decent despite knowing deep down that they are crap
!I use a Denon 80 watt amp I bought new around 1990 (maybe $350) and a pair of Bose 301 speakers from the same era (maybe $500). I think the set-up sounds great, and I don't seem to have a big problem with things not translating well to other systems...I have plenty of problems, but that just doesn't seem to be one of them. I think they make a great product.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
That's not Mackie vs. Bheringer, that's Mackie vs. Bheri, Samson and Sam Ash, who Mackie claims to have *CONSPIRED" against Mackie to create cloned products?
Anybody can sue anybody for anybody on any claim. That means nothing in and of itself. What I'd like to find is documentation on the RESULTS of that lawsuit. Did Mackie actually win and/or prove their claims, or put any directly attributable evidence into the public domain that they were talking about anything beyond simple mimicking? Their words are "very deliberate copying -- both visually and electronically."
I don't think anybody with two eyes could disagree with the fact that Bheri reverse engineers and copies many of Mackie's ideas and configurations. Shit, the car companies do that to each other all the time (ever notice how one car becomes popular and two years later every other car on the market looks exactly like it?) But there's a long difference between that and copyright or trademark infringement, let alone outright cloning.
Because I find it difficult (not impossible, but difficult) to believe that one of the largest retailers of Mackie products would bite one of the biggest hands feeding it by conspiring against Mackie with the purpose of creating and selling products with far less name brand recognition and selling price.
Then again, we do all know that just because a company is big, that doesn't make them immune from being completely stupid. So maybe it might have more truth than I thought - though I'm not yet convinced.
The problem - and the truth - remains that the Internut is no place to take anecdotal evidence at face value; there is such a big heaping pile up bullshit floating around it that one has to double and triple check the facts before they can believe any of it.
Shit, just the amount of cowpie filling that stacks up on this forum alone ("studio monitors are flat. home speakers are hyped", "always cut and never boost EQ", "the pros hide the real secrets from the newbs", "use every bit", "Speaker brand X makes everything sound good", "toob, toob, toob", "mastering is mixing", "higher sample rates are inherently always better", "mo' louda, mo' betta", "if you throw a vocal over a rhythm track, you're a 'producer'", and so forth) piles high enough to choke a standing NBA center.
G.
kcearl
I see deaf people
your mixes are generally spot on from what Ive heard, I might buy a pair of boseAw man, that explains why I always think my mixes sound decent despite knowing deep down that they are crap
I use a Denon 80 watt amp I bought new around 1990 (maybe $350) and a pair of Bose 301 speakers from the same era (maybe $500). I think the set-up sounds great, and I don't seem to have a big problem with things not translating well to other systems...I have plenty of problems, but that just doesn't seem to be one of them. I think they make a great product.