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Whats the diffrence between a half stack and a cabinet?

if the head is 100watts and the angled cabinet is 400watts does that mean you will get 400watts or 100 or 500 or what this is a dumb question but

and why but a head with 100watts for $600 when you can get a $600 cabinet that has 250watts

sry im troll
 
A "cabinet" only contains speakers. The wattage rating for a cab indicates the amount of power the speakers can handle.

A "head" is the unit that amplifies the sound. It contains all the controls and drives the speaker cabinets. The wattage rating indicates the power output
 
if you square the head wattage and divide it by the inverse cosine of the cab wattage youll end up with the total wattage cubed times the square of the tangent of the individual speaker diameter.
 
the perceived volume of an amp/cab combo depends on the power rating of the amp and the efficiency of the speakers. a 10 watt amp could be perceived as being loud thru an efficient speaker.
 
Greg_L said:
if you square the head wattage and divide it by the inverse cosine of the cab wattage youll end up with the total wattage cubed times the square of the tangent of the individual speaker diameter.
lol. Nice man.
 
Amps (heads or combos) put out power. They are rated for how much power they can put out, either continuous power (sometimes referred to as average or rms power) or peak power. An amp rated at 100 watts means it will put out an average of 100 watts to the speaker/s. They commonly rate amps at 1/2 of their output capacity. So a 100 watt amp can probably put out 200 watts of "instantaneous peak" power (aka "transient peaks"), but it will "average" 100 watts of "continuous power".

Speakers are rated for how much power they can dissipate in the form of heat. That's why they say voice coils get hot. Speakers are usually rated the same way as amps. A speaker rated at 100 watts means it can absorb or handle a continuous average input of 100 watts of power without any problems, and it can probably handle 200 watts of instantaneous or transient peak power. (Instantaneous meaning split seconds, or milliseconds)

A speaker cab rated at 400watts might have two 200 watt speakers, or it might have four 100 watt speakers. Another term you might want to get acquainted with is "speaker breakup." This is the distorted speaker sound you hear, for example, in some classic rock songs where the guitar is starting to sound heavy or distorted. A good example might be Billy Gibbons guitar on several early ZZ Top songs. Speaker breakup is ok, it usually wont hurt the speaker as long as the speaker rating is higher than the amp rating. That's why you will frequently see a 25 watt speaker in a 15 watt amp, or a 75 watt speaker in a 50 watt amp, etc..... Some guitar players like speaker breakup, and some speakers have breakup that is more musical than other speakers.

On the other hand, you might see a 50 watt amp running into a 200 or 400 watt cabinet. Some players do not like speaker breakup (I am one who does not want it) and they avoid it by using speakers that are rated significantly higher than the peak rating of the amp. That way it is possible to hear the pure sound of the amp, even if the amp is played so loud that the tubes in the amp are driven into distortion. Tube distortion is, in my opinion, much smoother and more musically usable than speaker distortion.

For example, in order to avoid speaker breakup I will run a 15 watt amp into a 150 watt cab, or a 25 watt amp into a 200 watt cab. By using a low wattage amp I can turn the amp up loud enough to get tube distortion without breaking my ear drums, but at the same time I do not get speaker breakup because my speaker cabs are rated so much higher than the peak output of the amp.

The amp is the only thing that determines how loud your guitar is (assuming you have correctly matched the speaker out ohms to the speaker cab ohms). A 15 watt amp will sound just as loud thru a 25 watt speaker as it will sound thru a 100 watt speaker. The only difference is the 25 watt spekaer will distort more easily than the 100 watt speaker will. On the other hand, one thing that will make your amp sound louder is using more speakers. A 15 watt amp plugged in to a 4x12 cab will sound quite a bit bigger than the same amp plugged into a single 1x12 cab.

The most important things are (1) match the ohm rating of the amp output to the ohm rating of the speaker or speaker cab, and (2) never use a speaker or a speaker cab that is rated lower than the amp output.

Hope this helps......
 
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But none of that matters if the flux capacitor can't handle the required 1.21 jigowatts.
 
Greg_L said:
if you square the head wattage and divide it by the inverse cosine of the cab wattage youll end up with the total wattage cubed times the square of the tangent of the individual speaker diameter.

watermelon said:
But none of that matters if the flux capacitor can't handle the required 1.21 jigowatts.

Imagine kids who pass all their classes and graduate from high school, but they refuse to leave and go on to college or real jobs, even though they are fully capable of doing so. Instead they just keep coming back to high school every year just to be clowns and make fun of the other students.....

That's what these kind of responses remind me of.... this is the kind of petty crap that makes this such a second class site..... :o
 
Too much detail fellas.
Amps suck (power) & put out.
Speakers (in cabs or not) suck power & blow.
 
soundchaser59 said:
Imagine kids who pass all their classes and graduate from high school, but they refuse to leave and go on to college or real jobs, even though they are fully capable of doing so. Instead they just keep coming back to high school every year just to be clowns and make fun of the other students.....

That's what these kind of responses remind me of.... this is the kind of petty crap that makes this such a second class site..... :o

There's a history behind those comments and who they are directed at. Its kind of like an in joke. Do a search for a thread about wiring 4 marshalls together. In fact search all this dudes threads. You'll get what we're talking about. You'll see that we do try to help but there are those who want to be spoon fed and even tho we try, we don't get anywhere. The questions always get answered before the mockery begins however...credit to the guy for being a good sport about it I say :)
 
soundchaser59 said:
Imagine kids who pass all their classes and graduate from high school, but they refuse to leave and go on to college or real jobs, even though they are fully capable of doing so. Instead they just keep coming back to high school every year just to be clowns and make fun of the other students.....

That's what these kind of responses remind me of.... this is the kind of petty crap that makes this such a second class site..... :o
lol. thank you. please remove your soapbox before someone trips over it. if you enjoy answering hundreds of mundane questions from trolls who arent really looking for answers anyway, then be my guest. this kid is ridiculous. as mentioned already, those comments go back to another thread and time. check his post history and save your good-guy act for another time and place.
 
Greg_L said:
lol. thank you. please remove your soapbox before someone trips over it. if you enjoy answering hundreds of mundane questions from trolls who arent really looking for answers anyway, then be my guest. this kid is ridiculous. as mentioned already, those comments go back to another thread and time. check his post history and save your good-guy act for another time and place.

Dewd, you are a fuckwad. There WAS a time when you would have asked a similar question.

I find that most of this guys questions are legit! But, your poor sorry guitar playin' (ha!) ass has to put up with "mundane".

You know what? If you don't like "mundane" questions over and over again, don't come here. The questions are the fucking reason this place exists you dumbazz!
 
Ford Van said:
Dewd, you are a fuckwad. There WAS a time when you would have asked a similar question.

I find that most of this guys questions are legit! But, your poor sorry guitar playin' (ha!) ass has to put up with "mundane".

You know what? If you don't like "mundane" questions over and over again, don't come here. The questions are the fucking reason this place exists you dumbazz!
lol. dude chill. im not anti-question, you fucking retard. i ask questions too. like mentioned earlier, go through this dudes history. hes a freaking troll. if youre too dumb to get it, then im sorry.

have a nice day.
 
anyone who consistently refuses to at least spell simple words correctly doesnt come across as someone thats legit. thats all im saying. ive tried several times to help him out. he blows-off good advice and just keeps on with his act.
 
Ford Van said:
Dewd, you are a fuckwad. There WAS a time when you would have asked a similar question.

I find that most of this guys questions are legit! But, your poor sorry guitar playin' (ha!) ass has to put up with "mundane".

You know what? If you don't like "mundane" questions over and over again, don't come here. The questions are the fucking reason this place exists you dumbazz!
Holy crap .... I agree with Ford Van ...(well, except the fuckwad part ..LOL )
I have seen this kids' questions and I understand that he seems deliberately dense.
But helping newbs is part of what this site is for and the possibility exists that some people who'll ask questions here aren't very smart with these concepts even though they seem so simple and obvious to us.
Hell, I've seen kids face to face that just were slow and had a hard time comprehending how amps and speakers and all the hookups work.
As a piano tuner I'd get asked to help with churches' soundsystems and one time they wanted to know why their wireless mic didn't work. They'd checked the battery and it was good ..... and all the other mics (corded) worked so why didn't this one? I got to looking around and they had the reciever packed up and sitting in the corner with the other unused stuff! Swear to God.
I even saw a guy once plug his amp into it's own convenience outlet! :D
And I've heard the question about how many watts you get with different speakers more times than I can count .... in person ...... by otherwise seemingly intelligent people!

So if his questions seem stupid or repetitious to ya' ..... why answer at all? Let someone who doesn't mind answer ... plus, I find that I'll learn to understand things I already know better by the process of writing it out to explain to someone else so I get something out of it too. If he's too dumb to understand then at some point everyone will quit responding and he'll go away ..... but giving someone ridiculous answers doesn't seem to be what an information source should do .... IMO.
 
i dont think the questions are stupid. i think the act is stupid. im all for questions, and genuinely help when i can. i just dont believe that this guys schtick is legit. its either and act, or this kids parents and teachers need to be jailed.
 
Greg_L said:
i dont think the questions are stupid. i think the act is stupid. im all for questions, and genuinely help when i can. i just dont believe that this guys schtick is legit. its either and act, or this kids parents and teachers need to be jailed.
There are several of these clowns on this site. walters comes to mind. I think they are probably the same person, who invents these guys just to get a kick out of annoying the good people on this site.
If you find a troll, ignore it and it goes away. No sense beating each other over it. You are just giving the asshole what he wants if you do that. You don't think he's looking at his monitor right now and laughing that he got you good?
I know I would, if I had the time and inclination to do dumb shit like that...
 
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