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Babycham
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I want to know Is AMD processor better than a Pentinum processor for audio??
Badger
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yep...amd
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Riku
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AMD...
If money is a object and if it's not... still AMD.
You may have to do more research about compatibility, but you will save money.
Riku
If money is a object and if it's not... still AMD.
You may have to do more research about compatibility, but you will save money.
Riku
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j
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just exactly why is AMD better? We aren't even talking about a specific type of processor. I'd be doing my shopping for the ideal MB not the ideal CPU.
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Polaris20
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j said:
Just as important is the chipset. Via chipsets are not compatible with all soundcards, not by a long shot.
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j
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well obviously the chipset is important, part of the MB decision...i haven't heard many complaints about recent VIA stuff, but i'd probably go with an AMD or INTEL chipset anyway.
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c9-2001
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i like the sis 740 chipset, it works great for me under nuendo with my athlonXP 1900+.
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neirbo
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The motherboard and associated chipset is critical! Way more important than the particular CPU. AMD or Pentium may be a little faster, slower, cooler, blah blah. Big deal. With an incomptable chipset, your system is just a big, expensive paperweight.
To build a DAW: 1) chose your sound card, 2) call the card tech support for advice on boards known to work or have conflicts.
Learn from my pain!
To build a DAW: 1) chose your sound card, 2) call the card tech support for advice on boards known to work or have conflicts.
Learn from my pain!
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bbundy96
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The Pentium P4 Northwood chip (512k cache) is a much beefier chip than the original P4. Package it with the right mobo and PC800 ram, like I did, and I cannot imagine a machine being noticably faster.
elevate
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Yea, I think the 2.4Ghz P4 is fastest cpu you can buy right now, in terms of performance (and clock speed).
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joemix
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I think I'd take the i850e board with plenty of PC1066 RDRAM over the AMD. 
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Atterion
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Longtime AMD fan here. My current config kicks major butt
AMD XP1900+ (Palimino Core)
Abit KG7 RAID MB (AMD761 Chipset)
-6 PCI (32 Bit only)
-4xAGP
-4 DIMM (DDR Ram up to 4 GB)
-BIOS controlled CPU, PCI, and FSB voltages (for those who wish to overclock, but I haven't found the need yet).
It is true that VIA chipsets can cause problems, and many software/hardware manufactureres recommend genuine AMD or (Choke)...INTEL Chipsets.
Of course the new Northbridge Core Pentium 4's are currently the fastest, until the new Athlon Thouroughbreds hit the market full force anyway.
Remarkably there has been a flood of new dual processor MB's since the release of the AMD Athlon MP and Pentium XEON MP processors, for cheap money. Couple this with an OS that supports native dual processor support and stability (i.e. Microsoft XP Pro), and you'll have a PC that will rock you all the way to the moon and back (Hear that G4 lovers).
AMD XP1900+ (Palimino Core)
Abit KG7 RAID MB (AMD761 Chipset)
-6 PCI (32 Bit only)
-4xAGP
-4 DIMM (DDR Ram up to 4 GB)
-BIOS controlled CPU, PCI, and FSB voltages (for those who wish to overclock, but I haven't found the need yet).
It is true that VIA chipsets can cause problems, and many software/hardware manufactureres recommend genuine AMD or (Choke)...INTEL Chipsets.
Of course the new Northbridge Core Pentium 4's are currently the fastest, until the new Athlon Thouroughbreds hit the market full force anyway.
Remarkably there has been a flood of new dual processor MB's since the release of the AMD Athlon MP and Pentium XEON MP processors, for cheap money. Couple this with an OS that supports native dual processor support and stability (i.e. Microsoft XP Pro), and you'll have a PC that will rock you all the way to the moon and back (Hear that G4 lovers).
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wilkee
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It seems to vary from machine to machine even using the same chipset and Proc. etc.
From what I can gather (and my own experience) any of the new breed of chipsets will give good performance once the comp has been optimised for Audio use only. If yoy also expect to play Quake etc and also have a NIC installed etc etc. then this is going to make life a lot more difficult.
I agree with Neirbo choose your soundcard first and then ask user groups and the like.
From what I can gather (and my own experience) any of the new breed of chipsets will give good performance once the comp has been optimised for Audio use only. If yoy also expect to play Quake etc and also have a NIC installed etc etc. then this is going to make life a lot more difficult.
I agree with Neirbo choose your soundcard first and then ask user groups and the like.
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brzilian
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AMD systems run hotter and NOISIER than a comparable P4 system.
Athlons generate huge amounts of heat and require noisy fans and power supply's to keep things cool. Go over to www.tomsharware.com and watch the video where they take the fan off a P4 and an Althon. The P4 simply slows down and eventuall shuts off - the Althon burns up in a cloud of smoke!!!!
For the above reasons as well as numerous compatability problems with VIA chipsets and sound cards, I plan to upgrade to a P4 1.8Ghz Northwood with an Intel mobo running the 845 chipset.
Athlons generate huge amounts of heat and require noisy fans and power supply's to keep things cool. Go over to www.tomsharware.com and watch the video where they take the fan off a P4 and an Althon. The P4 simply slows down and eventuall shuts off - the Althon burns up in a cloud of smoke!!!!
For the above reasons as well as numerous compatability problems with VIA chipsets and sound cards, I plan to upgrade to a P4 1.8Ghz Northwood with an Intel mobo running the 845 chipset.
db51
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If a person is stupid enough to run an AMD cpu without a heatsink and fan, he might very well be dumb enough to run a
PIV in an oven at 250°C...
In these cases of extreme stupidity even the PIV's built in overheating protection won't help much
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brzilian
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db51 said:
If a person is stupid enough to run an AMD cpu without a heatsink and fan, he might very well be dumb enough to run a
PIV in an oven at 250°C...
In these cases of extreme stupidity even the PIV's built in overheating protection won't help much
You're missing the point here
Its not about stupid users, but bad design/engineering.I guess it takes someone with a background in design/product development/engineering like me to see the relevance.
Price and performance aren't everything. I'd rather spend a few extra bucks for a WELL DESIGNED product that I know has less of a chance of failing over something cheaper.
Thats why I drive a Honda and not a Ford...
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elevate
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Are you saying that Alpha and HP PA-RISC are bad designs?
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Just thought I'd add that my Ford has 332,000 miles on it.
hokypokynose
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I have a Pentium 4 1.6ghz with a MSI mobo and Intel 845 chipset. It has yet to lock up. The software has crapped up, but it hasn't physically locked up yet.
Intel chip+Intel chip=Perfect combonation
Intel chip+Intel chip=Perfect combonation
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brzilian
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elevate said:
What thoes that have to do with the topic at hand - Athlons vs. P4's???
I was comparing Intel to AMD - not to DEC or HP. Neither were we duscussing the meritts of RISC over CISC architecture - something which today probably not an issue anymore. Case and point G4 vs. newer P4's...
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how much money have you spent on your Ford with 332,000miles as far as maintenance goes? I'm willing to bet more than I've spend on Honda's I've owned...
elevate
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You were implying that the need for effective cooling for the Athlon is due to bad design. My point was that the Alpha and PA-RISC chips also need good cooling. The Alpha actually needs a ton of cooling as it generates about twice the amount of heat that current Athlons do. Was the Alpha poorly designed?
Aside from the usual tires, brakes, oil, etc... I've probably spent about $1,200 - $2,000, which is pretty good considering that it does go off road from time to time. I realize that my Ford is something of an anomaly, but it's still a Ford.
Aside from the usual tires, brakes, oil, etc... I've probably spent about $1,200 - $2,000, which is pretty good considering that it does go off road from time to time. I realize that my Ford is something of an anomaly, but it's still a Ford.