AMD Atholon XP vs. Pentium 4

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hey guys i am buying new computer and i was wondering if there is any difference in P4 and AMD... I am also planina to buy Delta 1010 and i have seen few posts before that Delta 1010 and AMD's don`t word that good together....There are some clicks and stuff.. Anybody owning Delta 1010 and AMD? Which one should i go for p4 or AMD? thanks!
 
AMD.

You'll get better (or equal) performance at half the price. I know that sounds too good to be true, but it's one of the few things in this world that isn't. For example... the latest and greatest Athlon XP (2100+) is right on par with the P4 2.4 GHZ. Right now you can get the XP for $209 and the P4 will run ya $520. (Pricewatch.com as of 5/5/02) On top of that, the RAM for the P4 is gonna cost you twice as much. (even though prices for RDRAM have come down a lot, it's still much more expensive than DDR RAM.) So if money is a concern for you, as it is for almost everyone, AMD is the way to go. But keep in mind, you aren't getting garbage products just because you're paying less... the XP still outperforms the P4 in most applications.

As for the compatibility issues, those days are long gone. The AMD issues are few and far between (if any) nowadays... the only thing you might run into is a VIA issue (which is a prominent AMD chipset) and if you wanna avoid any possible problems with that, just get an AMD761 chipset mobo.

WATYF

(P.S. If your heart is set on a Pentium... I wouldn't get a 4 anyway. They run just as hot as AMD's, and require more cooling.... so if you must get a Pentium, I would recommend getting a high end PIII instead of the P4... but the PIII GHZ stops at 1.26, so you're pretty limited there.)
 
if someone told you a delta 1010 won't work with a AMD they're just talking and they don't know... i ran my delta 1010 on my old school slot Athlon 7000 overclocked to 1.1gig... perfect... never had one pop and have very low latency with win 2000 and XPpro. with my Xp1600.. it worked perfect... and now with my Xp1900 it still works perfect. my Xp1600+ its faster than my moms 2gig P4 by far... and its very stable, its my graphic and dsl computer now, the 1900+ is a daw and its very stable, i've never had a problem
i even had a delta 1010 on a amd K6 400...:D
 
P4 or AMD

If you want to use Cakewalk Sonar, they recommend a P4. They said that there is something in the processor that it will let you run the program 50% faster and more effecient.

tcdave
 
try to find out what the program u are using is optimized for...

for example Steinberg entered into an agreement with AMD and has started to optimize all of their software lines for the Thunderbirds and now XPs I believe... I think Wavelab was the 1st product to be fully optimized for AMD from steinberg... Cubase may be now (Cubase SX is I know)... and I am not sure if Nuendo is or not, but I think v1.6 coming soon has the full AMD code optimizations...

you will fnid some companies are optimized for both (or say they are) and others are more optimized for one or the other.
 
I wouldn't get a 4 anyway. They run just as hot as AMD's, and require more cooling....
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This is plainly not true. Athlons in general have to dissipate considerably more heat than P4's. P4's also have temperature sensing mechanisms that will throttle down the cpu when it gets too hot or even shut down so as to prevent damage to the cpu. AMD has no such solution.

Also, you don't have to get RDRAM to run a P4. P4 motherboards are available for use with SDR and DDR RAM.
 
This is plainly not true.
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O.K... That read wrong... I by no means meant to imply that P4's are hotter running than XP's, (and require more cooling) because they're not (and they don't). I was just trying to say that both XP's and P4's run fairly hot and both require more cooling than the PIII, although, you're right, the P4 will be easier to keep cool than the XP... but my point was simply that the PIII would be a better choice for a cooler running CPU.

As for the RAM... this is also true. DDR has been available for some time on Intel boards. But my point wasn't all inclusive.. though once again... worded wrong. I should have said the RAM can cost you twice as much, as my point was simply that the AMD is an over-all more cost effective choice.

But next time I'll be sure that my comments can not posssibly be taken the wrong way... :p

WATYF
 
WATYF said:


O.K... That read wrong... I by no means meant to imply that P4's are hotter running than XP's, (and require more cooling) because they're not (and they don't). I was just trying to say that both XP's and P4's run fairly hot and both require more cooling than the PIII, although, you're right, the P4 will be easier to keep cool than the XP... but my point was simply that the PIII would be a better choice for a cooler running CPU.

WATYF
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Not entirely true. Intel is more advanced in that the processor knows when it does not have adequate ventillation and will power down as to not burn up.

If you took the fan off a Athlon, the processor would simply go up in smoke.
 
brzilian said:


Not entirely true. Intel is more advanced in that the processor knows when it does not have adequate ventillation and will power down as to not burn up.

If you took the fan off a Athlon, the processor would simply go up in smoke.
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True. I saw a video somewhere that demonstrated this dramatically.

But who the hell would take the heatsink/fan off their CPU?
 
But who the hell would take the heatsink/fan off their CPU?
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I think the issue is what if your cpu fan chokes and dies? Or what if Joe Newbie doesn't seat the heatsink properly?
 
AMD has implemented an overheatsensor in the new Athlon XP's. If it will work depends on the motherboard used. It has to support the feature.
 
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