Alternative kick microphone

[Vagodeoz]

I don't have a kick microphone, so I was thinking what is the best entry level alternative for a 112 or B52.

Edit: Would be mostly for rock/metal.

 

[jrhager84]

sm57's are great to capturing the "click" that most metal music has. I personally have an sm81 in the shell right on top of the beater (about 4-6in away), and a Beta52a mid-shell pointing to the shell (for more tone than punch). I blend them and get great results. I'd say if you got a 57, you could get a decent metal tone (most metal don't have boomy kick drums anyways) and you could get buy. Then just get any larger condenser mic and put it at the edge of the shockwave of the drum (hold your hand out and have someone kick, move the mic right outside of where the air stops moving). You'll be in like flynn (a basic guideline of course).

-Joel

 

[Dogman]

I use a CAD KBM412, came with my setup. Works pretty decent for the price.

 

[Adam P]

SM57 plus a speaker mic maybe

 

[MessianicDreams]

If you can only get one, Audix D6 blows the D112/B52 outta the water for my money..

 

[tom18222]

get an rvd 1, it is the best kick drum mic, and it's really cheap. search google.

 

[xstatic]

Personally I would not even compare an RVD1 to something like a beta 52, senn 602 Audix D6 etc... I had to use those Red5 mics a couple of times now and it was pretty shoddy.

Keep in mind that just because metal drummers like a lot of click in their kick sound to help cut through the guitars, that does not mean at all that the lows should not be there as well. I would do whatever you have to do to get yourself into at least one standard kick mic.

 

[BentRabbit]

My normal setup these days is a D112 6" out in front, just off center from the front head (no hole) and an SM 58 pointed at the beater... Prolly 4" to 6" away.

 

[omtayslick]

Do you have a spare mic around that might work with one of these?:

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=252568&highlight=kickpad

http://www.music123.com/earthworks-KickPad-Mic-Level-Kickdrum-Processor-270374-i1172925.Music123

 

[dementedchord]

EV RE20... way cool for kick.... an excellent dynamic vocal mic ... great for lower horns too... very versatile mic... it's a mic you'll end up using alot instead of only when doing drums....

 

[mixsit]

I don't have a kick microphone, so I was thinking what is the best entry level alternative for a 112 or B52.

Edit: Would be mostly for rock/metal.

So is the question a cheap scooped kick mic or an all-around mic that can double on kick?

 

[Vagodeoz]

Well, an AKG 112 is on my wishlist, but there are other stuff I'm buying first that I need more.
As xstatic said, kicks need a lot of click in metal, that is why now I'm using the 57/58. I put it inside the kick, as close to the head as possible, so it gets a lot of low end from the proximity effect.
So maybe mixing it with a LDC on the soundhole could add some of the bass I'm looking for.
However I always run my kick tracks through drumagog, and mix the original signal with the sampled kick, or a very low sine wave.
When you guys mike the beater, do you do it from inside the kick? or from outside? And why?

 

[Ironklad Audio]

i've only mic'ed the beater a couple of times, and that was only because there was no hole on the front head of the kick, and the drummer didn't want to take the head off

in that case, i stuck my D6 in front of the drum, and a 57 on the beater side...as close as possible to where the beater hits the drum without it being in the way of the drummer