All I got is a red guitar, three chords . . and 3,000 dollars.

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pglewis, my point is that processing power isn't for free. If you want to do HD recording on your computer, you will need to get a computer with more "Oomph" than if you buy a computer that you are just using for surfing and word processing and things. Which means that you can not just say that "I'm gonna buy a computer anyway" and not count that into the cost of HD recording.
 
3000 dollars eh , i must say ed , u did very well on that budget ... i easily spent that on my first studio , but i didnt really know about forums like this , which would have helped so much ... Hey by the way a good amp , the alesis ra100 , its done good by me ... a little pricy though at 800 dollars australian... US??????
 
Geeeez, I didn't know I was mediating a WAR. Well, folks, the problem for me is I still haven't got my Internet account set up at home, so every time I want to check the forum here, I have to come clear to the college. I'm glad to see that everyone is still so concerned about where I throw my bucks. I still haven't purchased anything yet (I'm still trying to visit all the grandparents that forgot who I was).

But there is a NEW TWIST!!!! Ah yes, just when we thought we were making some progress. Here's the deal: I've recorded a few albums at this studio near where I live. Well, the engineer there claims to think our music is really good, and that he listens to our last album "at least once a week." Actually, I don't even think my MOM listens to it once a week. In any case, he recently spent a big chunk of money and upgraded his studio so that he's easily one of the nicest studios in the state (ye olde grande state of Utah). Just today he sent me an email saying:

"I would like to talk to you sometime about maybe doing some more recording that would be a little more produced, drums, keyboards, etc. I would be interested in producing and helping out with the recording cost."

The truth is this guy is an extremely talented musician and engineer. Sooo, should I forget about buying all the stuff, and follow the pro? Or do I cut the pro-studio umbilical cord and go out on my own? I bet I know what you'll say….

Squashboy.
 
depends on how much hes gonna "help out" .. if hes gonna give you a great deal go for it , just make sure there is no alterior motive...

- eddie -
 
I think, and I've read also, you can learn *so* much doing your own recording that when you step into a pro studio, you avoid a lot of mistakes and time-wasting. As long as you know how to let the engineer do his job, and you concentrate on making the music. So, ordinarily, I'd say, yeah - go for your own studio *and* the pro deal if it's genuine.

But you said: "I've recorded a few albums at this studio near where I live."

A *few* albums. Wow. So presumably you know your way around a studio already. Well, a pro studio can get a better sound than most home studios, so the choice is probably clear if the offer's straightforward.

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If he recently upgraded his studio, maybe you can get a whopper deal on some of his old equipment. I know that I usually don't advocate buying used gear but if you know the guy, it's another story.

/Ola
 
It's of course completely impossible give any real advice about these things for a person you donät really know, but I'll try. ;)
As I see it, having a studio at home can have two purposes:
1. Making demos with the object of getting a record deal, or publishing the music yourself.
2. Fiddling around with recording as a hobby with no serious intentions.
It seems to me that you pretty serious about your music an want to get it published. Well, a studio with the quality to publish the music yourself is probably not gonna be possible to put together for $3500 (right?) so then it's the "making demos" part. And if you have these connections with proper studios, I'd say use them instead!
Right?
 
Regebro - You took the words right out of my mouth. I was typing more or less the same thing when I updated the thread and saw that the truth(?) was already out there. However, (and maybe you meant this as well) $3500 should get you a setup that is capable of producing a quality that is good for demos for you and others and probably good enought to sell cheap after gigs etc. Demos and cheap records yes, finished full-price CDs, probably not.

My opinion is that if that your intention with the studio is to record demos for your band, then it's probably better to visit someone else's studio. If you on the other hand like recording as a hobby and want to record music for your band and possibly even for others, by all means get a studio.

Vart i Stockholm är du från? Jag har inte sett någon annan Stockholmare här förut.

/Ola
 
"Cheap CD" quality for $3500? Hmmm. Well, OK, if you don't count cost of the instruments. :)

Jag bor i Rinkeby.
 
I don't even dare to estimate the ammount of money I've spent on instruments.

Squashboy - Is your question answered or is your picture of your recording future only further blurred by our rambling? :)

Själv flyttar jag till Vendelsö denna månad och kommer börja bygga min studio i höst.

/Ola
 
"All I got is a red guitar, three chords . . and 3,000 dollars."

Sound like a Skynyrd Blues tune to me.
Rock on dude! ;)
 
hmmmnn..if he really wants to produce you and has faith in your talent as a musician , then he should sign you to a production deal...that means he lays out the money to record you , and in the event that you get picked up by a major label he gets alot of cash.. so really , his "deal" should be that you pay nothing.. if he wants money from you, then im gonna go with your instinct and say he just wants you to spend money at his studio.. see what happens on the 14th.. if it involves too much of your cash then buy your own gear..

- eddie -
 
I’m going to a celebration for the opening of this studio on July 14th, and I imagine that he’ll probably tell me exactly what his “deal” is. I really like this guy, and the few projects we’ve done together have left me sounding really good…but totally broke. I’ll see what he’s offering. If he’s serious about producing our music, then I’ll go his way. Of course, in some ways I think it would be nice to have my own gear that I could record a few basic tracks on, and then take it to the studio to produce it a little more. Anybody ever do that kind of thing?

On the other hand, there is the possibility that he’s just telling me my music is good because he wants me to spend my money at his place. But I’ll never really know because even if he really does think it’s good, I’m sure he wants me to spend my money at his place. Part of the reason I was looking into getting my own stuff was that I would always have it around to fix mistakes, record whenever I feel like it, and I’d have unlimited time to get it right.

Geez, I don’t know what I’d do if I didn’t have this forum. Thanks for the advice, everyone.

Squashboy
 
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Part of the reason I was looking into getting my own stuff was that I would always have it around to fix mistakes, record whenever I feel like it, and I’d have unlimited time to get it right. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It sounds like you want a studio regardless of the mentioned recording.

I agree with Eddie. You should really get a free-until-you're-rich deal.

Good luck with everything

/Ola
 
So, I went to the re-opening studio celebration, and it was a little too crowded to discuss serious business, but it looks like this friend of mine might be serious about producing us, although I’m sure he still wants my money. He’s asked us to “share time” with his band at a few shows in August. In any case, I’ve already ordered the recording equipment, and over the next few weeks I’ll be putting it together. I’m so excited my brain is exploding! I can’t even sleep. Well, that ranchero music coming from the apartment next door all night long might have something to do with that I suppose.

I’ll report in once I’ve done a few tracks. Thanks again,

Squashboy.
 
spill the beans man ,what type of set up did you ultimately go with? :)

- eddie -
 
Squash......dude what's up!!!!!

Logan huh????? What were ya doin in China????? I bet you were gone for exactly 2 years....am I right ????? :)

Hey Im just wondering what this studio is yer talkin about...is it up in Cache valley or is it down here in SL.......

Congrats on buying your own studio setup...I bet you will be happy regardless of what happens with this producer guy......

The reason im bombin ya with all these ?'s in case you havent noticed Utah....aint exactly radio city....

So tell me about the new studio in your area.. and who your producer is...


Heat
 
Okay, in answer to Eddie,

El Grande Computer is still under construction… more on that later. But it'll be a doosy.

Soundcard: Gadgetlab's Wave 8/24: I went with this because I'm a beginner, and everyone who has written about it talks about how EASY it is to use. It's 24 bit recording, but only does 48 KHz. I say "only" but to be honest with you I've seen a few too many loud concerts for my ears to really hear the difference between 48 KHz and 96KHz. So there you go.

As soon as I get everything set up I'm going to try this n-track software that Ola keeps promoting. We'll see how it goes. It seems pretty easy.

Other stuff: I got the Event 20/20's (the amplified ones) and they look real sweet. Also, your basic Rode NT1 mic, and an ART Tube Pre-amp ('cause everyone says it'll sound warm and rich and just like honey with my acoustic guitar).

Cables: Now, there's a big QUESTION! How is it that I can spend 12 buck for an XLR cable or 150 bucks for an XLR cable? What! are there little sound genies in the expensive ones? I don't get it . . . let me know folks!


In answer to Heat:

Yep, I'm in Logan. My wife and I were actually gone for one year, which means I was either a really naughty missionary or I was just teaching English.

The studio I was referring to is Scott Wiley's studio "June Audio," in Provo. If you haven't seen it, or don't know Scott, then you'd better get down there. It's really nice . . . I mean REALLY nice. You can check it out at juneaudio.com I haven't worked with more than a handful of engineers in Utah, but in my opinion Scott kills them all. Utah has potential, I say.

Have fun.

Squashboy.


[This message has been edited by Squashboy (edited 07-20-2000).]
 
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