Adjusting volume after splitting & gluing

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I recorded some audio with my guitar. I made several splits so I could adjust the volume in key sections of my recorded track. Now, I want to take the second half of the edited track and lower the volume on that by about 50%. However, I noticed that if I glue everything first, I can't make it happen in the same manner as so when I made my initial splits. I imagine there must be a way to do this. Can someone please tell me how? I held off from gluing my initial edits in the meantime.
 
Just bounce the track. After crossfading the edits. From there you can make new cuts/gain edits.

Why are you in the red? Did you piss someone off? Just askin....
 
just make another split, adjust the volume, then glue again
 
I want to do exactly what zzed said..... but if I glue my volume edits now and then try my edit for the second half, I don't get the functionality that allows me to lower the volume in the track. It's hard to explain but once I glue, I can't do it the same way again.

Jimmy; I don't even know what the red means or how I got it. I haven't been here for a while, actually.
 
Yeah, after you do the edits and 'glue' stuff together, you need to bounce the track. Make sure you have cross fades done smooth so there are no 'pops' at the edit points. I will usually solo the track and listen closely on headphones before I do a bounce. The bounced track will basically render the track to a new file that includes all of the edits. Like exporting the track, but giving you a clean event that you can further edit, including the functionality that you are looking for.

As far as the red thing goes, someone neg rep'd you more than my one approval was able to overcome. Whatever caused someone to negative rep you is a mystery. You should be able to see it from your 'Settings' tab. In any case, it really does not matter unless you are looking to please others. I have not found you offensive myself.
 
Yeah, seems you got stuck in a personal opinion situation, and someone took it out on you with stupid neg rep.

If you would sir, give her some green gecko. :)
 
Split and bounce..
Does Cubase not have automation?
 
Hmm. Then if one already did the splits and gains, wouldn't next up be just work the track levels?
 
Yes it would. But the result of the edits that were first done, is an event that has been pasted together, and is still causing much work by the cpu to (in real time) play back. That is why I recommended bouncing the track. A new fresh palate to do whatever to.
 
Ah, ok.

I'm sort of attracted 'cause a guy at the Sonar forum was saying he'd take tracks with lots of gain fixes to another prog (Audition in this case) where it was easier to do it a 'split and drag gain' mode rather than just do gain (pre fader) automation envelopes right there on the track.

..don't know :)..still checking it out but it's sounding like the 'lots more clicks-to-get-there route. Not to mention less flexible.. Often as not I'll use those same gain envelopes to do fixes like grab low or high spots within a phrase or word (..presumably not logical places to do in a split?), slopes or ramps etc including.. continuing and refining on them as the mix progresses. :)
 
Well, every DAW has a different workflow. One of the things I love about Cubase, is the ability to make all of these edits from the main project window, before having to introduce effects. And even after effects/automation are introduced, you can manipulate the waveform at any point. Everyone has a different take on what works for them.
 
I assume the OP is talking about adjusting clip volumes of the events. The problem he seems to be facing is that when you glue split audio events together you get what is known in Cubase as a "part". A part is sort of a container event (region) for multiple audio events and is used for auditioning and comping multiple takes, etc. Once audio events are put into a part (either by gluing or right click->events to part), clip volumes can only be adjusted by double clicking the part and doing it within the part editor. It can not be accomplished from the project window.

I would not bounce anything if it's not necessary since you might want to adjust some things later. The nice thing about using parts is that all audio events within the part are automatically cross-faded and can be stacked in virtual tracks or lanes for easy auditioning using the split (3) and mute (7) tools. It is sort of an alternative to using track lanes but operates under the same idea. Another plus is that multiple takes of the same performance within a part on different lanes are crossfaded from lane to lane. In other words if you have a phrase from take 1 that leads into a phrase from take 3, all you have to do is mute the rest of the take 1, make the relevant splits, andd it will cross-fade automatically without having to move it on to take 1's lane. Make sense? Using the mute and split tool within the part editor is a powerful comping tool that keeps things tidy in the project window. Just remember that even though the cross fades aren't visible, they are still there.

Hope that helps.

Cheers :)
 
It's quite a learning curve but I really appreciate the feedback from everyone. Jimmy, in your post #5, you mentioned "pops." I did notice a little pop in my bass in one tiny part where I did an edit. Can I get rid of that without affecting the bass recording? It's already been glued.
 
It depends on where the 'pop' is. You can cut out the spot where it is, and use fades. In some situations where the pop was not on a transient of a drum hit, that would cover up the edit, I have had to time stretch the event to make it work.

After reading Mo Fa's response, I am wondering if my advice has much relevance. Seems I am not using Cubase to it's potential yet. Always learning! :D
 
Mo;

I'm dealing with glued tracks again and never really understood your advice because I'm so novice with cubase. Are there any video tutorials out there which you are aware of? Can you (or anyone) send me a link?
 
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