Added some things to Mixmkr's "Destinations"

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My index finger is slightly lacerated so I had to put a couple other projects off.

Mixmkr posted some synth stuff that I dug a while back and I said I'd like to do some vocal stuff with it. I added a few tracks of vocals and some light guitar leads that didn't hurt the finger too much.

mixmkr, I know you didn't realize I'd be posting this, but there's some hiss on your synth track at the end I had to just accept because I liked the part.

It was a nice mellow morning project to do while the world burns. Hope it chills you all out. :)


"Destinations"
 
Absolutely hated the vocals(reminded me too much of the god awful singer in the crash test dummies) but I really like the guitar parts.Sounds a lot like mark knopfler.What are you singing?What language is that?
 
Sorry, that probably seemed rude...I mean I expected the vocals to be "hated" by some peeps. I didn't quite get the CTD comparison though...no big deal. Thanks for listening anyway.

EDIT. Oh and I made up the "language." I told mixmkr I was gonna do something wordless. (Although I did do one worded verse.)
 
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I made up the "language."
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totally cool! it REALLY reminds me of Enigma now.. great additions! maybe the vocals are a hair loud, but they really finished the tune off.. It made me feel like I was in the Lion King! :D Nice guitar additions too.. You took a chance with this vocal and it paid off in my opinion.. I think you should just bring them down a hair.. It gives this song a whole new meaning.. Nice job again on the music mixmkr!

This one may be geared toward the smoking gentleman.. I could also hear this playing while I sit back with a woman..

I like it a lot..

I tried making up a language once, but I was afraid I would unknowingly summon an entity! :eek:
 
SLuiCe said:
Sorry, that probably seemed rude...I mean I expected the vocals to be "hated" by some peeps. I didn't quite get the CTD comparison though...no big deal. Thanks for listening anyway.

EDIT. Oh and I made up the "language." I told mixmkr I was gonna do something wordless. (Although I did do one worded verse.)
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You didnt come off as rude.LOL.I just didnt understand the statement.

I should have used a better word than "hated".I didnt hate the vocals,I just didnt like them,especially the "made up" language section.

I should have also made it clear that the part of the vocal that "I" thought sounded like Crash Test dummies was the made up language parts,not the verse that was sung in english.

I guess I was trying to take mixmkr's advice and comment with complete honestly instead of heaping praise on everything thats posted in the clinic.LOL...I should have just said I really liked the guitar parts and didnt care for the vocals and left it at that.I know I came off as an asshole and I apologize.
 
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Damn...I feel ya pain babe. I'm a butcher (meat cutter) of about 27yrs..ouch. I've cut my left index finger so many times...well a lot of fukin times. I'm coming outta left field here, but I like what you did vocal wise on this...I think it fits it. Guitar still sounds wonderful with bad finger and all:D . I can dig this.
 
Interesting...

I actually enjoyed the listen. It may take me a couple times through to soak the vocals up as they are a little out of the ordinary...but strangely fitting to this. I agree with B.Sabbath. I hear Lion King III (Kiara's Kitties?? :D) written all over this. Maybe you should learn some obscure African language. It sounds like it may fit in here.

Nice work & very creative.
 
Wow...first off I am going to say, it is neat to hear what you did on top of this "library" music....

But...

Finger slashed....oh well, I can whip out a Mixmker tune!!:D :D
I think that puts it all into perspective!!

Proceeding on...

I like the ideas that you wanted to do...VERY much so, but I think there are some major problems (not mentioning how the opening synth sound, sounded after being converted to MP3 back and forth a couple times...:( But, not that they were "that" pristine to begin with!! Hiss...ha!!! I love it!! My roland IS noticeably hissy...ha!!

After listening to your vocals on top of this, it hit me like a truck, that your style of singing and vocal sound would be a great match to this music.

But... Since I know the tempo was OFF when I recorded it (even though it is a rubato feel.... [I felt I rushed it]), I felt the timing felt even more ackward with your vocals on top of it, much more so...and you seem to 'run out of space' when I get off my ONE note 40 second intro....just by a smidgen...but could be easily corrected by nudging the vocals forward a tad in a DAW.

Also, the tuning seems off, like you and I are off a 1/4 step off or so...at the harmony parts. Kinda the same effect you hear on those "American Idol" shows where you know the singer is good, but WHOA!! ....they are out of tune, ... and you just chalk it up to a bad monitor mix, or something of that nature that doesn't let them hear things right. I noticed that right off the bat, and I think that is my biggest 'complaint.' I realize the unothordox harmonies in there, and I think they ARE some ones that work well, but the "gel factor" wasn't there. Also...maybe a little loud too. Not for the "tv mix"...but for "windsong music"...yeah...a little loud.

I liked the "Indian vibe" that I got out of it, and felt a 'wordless' approach is completely appropriate.

I feel like a real smuck telling you these faults, as I am more than impressed that you took the time and did some really neat stuff to it.



I'm gonna chalk up the amputated finger to some of the sloppyness on the leads, but the idea you had definately was there.

All in all...I think if you and I worked on this together and recorded it at the same time (as ONE project..in the SAME studio...working TOGETHER), I would have been IMMENSELY pleased. Almost to the extent that I would do more of this stuff and pay you to add vocals to them...(but fear the same problems might crop up again...to no fault of your own).

However... I wish you could see my smile. Thanks for the treat!!:)

(now if sammij would get off his butt!!;) ) <---- j/king!!
 
Thanks guys.

Hey mix, don't worry about the negatives. I put no more than two stoned hours into it, not because that's what your music deserved, but because it's all I had by the time I got set up. I just kinda layered ideas as I went. I wouldn't say this is a song for musicians either. My girlfriend LOVED it. I knew there'd be a lot of technical critique and I'm fine with that. Just wanted to experiment with the ideas. It's like a rough draft. I didn't know if you check your PM's or not so I posted it here and figured I'd get ripped, but oh well. :) The idea is there.

The tough part was timing since there is no percussion, having to almost guess when the harmonies should begin, etc. I wasn't about to get into pushing waves forward or cutting words in half. I just felt like singing some melodies over your pleasing music to stop thinking about this war for a little while.

As for the mix, I kinda had Tom Waits' The Black Rider in mind, hence the vocals being up a little. The instrumentation reminded me of "That's the Way" and "The Briar and the Rose" if you want to check them out. The bird sounds and the "musette" type sound put me in that mode. I probably should have lowered the vocals but around here you get trained to raise them more than you want to. ;)

Thanks for letting me screw around with this. I got to learn a couple things!
 
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I completely understand your viewpoints, and the process in what you did. In all actuality, I think a better music bed (with better sonics and [the rubato] timing could have a better flow, would be called for, for you to put more effort into it. (however, some of my final drafts aren't as good as some "ruffies" around here that you guys slap up!!!).

You know me anyway. I tend to point out the flaws, (hopefully to the benefit of the writer/reader/listener), and I know that. Not to say that 10 posts saying "that was great" doesn't convey as equally a valid message, I try to help with the problem areas instead.

This to me, shows me the open-minded-ness you have as a musician, and not having the crutch of doing something that is the "ole tried and true". Leaning on that crutch tends to make you walk forward much slower, as I am sure you know. Not because I posted the music originally, but because of what you attempted to do, makes me feel you did something really cool.

Again...I still have a big smile:)
 
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I wasn't about to get into pushing waves forward or cutting words in half. I just felt like singing some melodies over your pleasing music to stop thinking about this war for a little while.

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Amen!!
 
That was a beautiful piece of music. Totally relaxing, and perfect for a Sunday morning wakeup.
If I hadn't read the previous posts, I wouldn't have noticed any of your "complaints" because everything really just melded together beautifully. This was very refreshing.


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I liked the vocals - both the English and made up. Have you ever heard Magma? They've got numerous albums all done in a made up language.

I've had over 40 stitches in my left hand over the years - ya just gotta play through it. Good for you for putting down a guitar lead! Pain is subjective and blood stains can wash away.;)
 
Very nice man. I remember this one when Mix put it up. ..cool then, cool now.
Interesting perspective Tom, At that pitch, the harmonies paint a clear picture for me.
I used to go to Indian pow wow's w/ my wife when she was in college. She is half Cherokee and used to take part in all of that stuff when she was in school. At these pow wow's, different tribes would get together and sing and play drums together (jam). Something that stood out to me, a person who gets too anal about my own pitch, was how loose and relaxed sounding all of the vocs were. ...And not because they were fucking up, or not musically savy....... It was quite intensional, and Completely focused on vibe.

Your vocs in this, and their low pitch remind me of those indian jams. An old tired shaman, muttering wisdom that only his people could understand. ....and even though people outside his own dont understand the literal translation, the vibe tells of how important the message is.....
.......so we listen anyways
gw/5
 
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I used to go to Indian pow wow's w/ my wife when she was in college. She is half Cherokee and used to take part in all of that stuff when she was in school. At these pow wow's, different tribes would get together and sing and play drums together (jam). Something that stood out to me, a person who gets too anal about my own pitch, was how loose and relaxed sounding all of the vocs were. ...And not because they were fucking up, or not musically savy....... It was quite intensional, and Completely focused on vibe.
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Bingo....

That's where I was coming from with this, Mike. My girlfriend is Chippewa Cree. We go to the reservation (Rocky Boy) in northern Montana that she was born at every year. We've been thinking about it a lot lately during this war, how much we look forward to it this year. It's very peaceful. I have brought back so much from both the pow-wows (which are spectacular as you know...I actually have favorite drum groups by name...Scissortail, Big Bear, and of course Rocky Boy Cree, and not just because they're local).
The key thing I take from that music is abandon. I am not a great singer by any means, but it feels great to do it, physically and mentally. It feels great to just close your eyes, open your month, and just start letting notes leave as fast as they arrive. That's pretty much what I did with mixmkr's music. Of course I try to do that with everything, but some music kinda requires you to be more precise.
The drum groups are actually much more complicated than that. They have a lot of times up to 20 people singing together with one simple beat and the most complex overtones and accents that you just don't hear and feel until your there. It's so good to see them keeping it alive. I could go on and on...sorry.

Thank you guys very much for being receptive to my whacky ideas. And even though this may be a "ruffie" I do pay attention to your suggestions. Every tune is a learning experience.
 
WOW!

Im totally feeling this.....mixmkr pointed out some good stuff, and its a shame when something is recorded you really want it to be perfect....but the feel of this is actually chilling......

great job, both of ya.....
 
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