A Wanderer part two.....help!

  • Thread starter Thread starter jake-owa
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
jake-owa

jake-owa

Banned
Ok so big suprise, the drummer I've been trying to get to play for me is a total flake so I'll just try to get a passing grade alone.

The vocals are new but I don't think they're there yet, better but not quite there.
My main question is about the cymbals, I pasted some in but I'm getting a bit tired of hearing the song.
So if I could borrow your ears for a moment could someone tell me if I'm on the right track or should I abandon ship?

The song is at the bottom of my page it's: "A Wanderer work. The original is in there if anyone needs to compare the two.

www.nowhereradio.com/jake/singles

Thanks, Jake
 
Again, great tune! I like this a lot and I'm glad you're still working on it.

Guitars might be a little loud this time. The tune lost a little of it's punk charm, but the different feel is cool too.

The backwards cymbal thing around :15 sounded awesome, the second time it sounded really cool too. The third and fourth time sounded a little too much.

I've listened to this one a lot since your previous post. Very cool!
 
Hi. How's it goin? Life treating you okay? ... oh yeah, your song...

Okay, I just have opinions, and they probably mean nothing, but I like to share them, so here you go. First, I can't offer any cymbal crashes in general, but taking out that last trashcan lid crash was a definite improvement, lol. They sound fine to me, but I usually draw a lot of criticism for my "drum" sounds.

The vocal still sounds weird to me...I don't think it's loud enough, for one, and it's really "mushy," like it had all the mids sucked out of it. If they're doubled, you did a nice job on the doubling, b/c it's hard to tell - they just kind of have that chorusish sound that sounds better than using a chorus, if that makes sense. Really, I think it might be a lot better if they were just louder; like "miss you" at 2:14, THAT'S how all the vocals should sound on this. I don't know if that part's just louder or what, but it has more mids, and it sounds really good. What kind of mic are you using? The lack of mids in the vocal reminds me of the sound I get with a dynamic shure.

The dryish sound of the guitars works for me...it kinda' reminds me of early butthole surfers tone...Kinda' cheap, but in an intentional way, lol.

If you do something stupid like listen to my advice and turn up the vocal, I'd like to hear it again, b/c as is, the mix sounds like it doesn't have enough clarity (needs more mids), but I think 90% of it is due to the vocal...

Still a really cool song.
 
hey jake..

man i thought the drums sounded great ..toms are BIG ..
what kind of drums???..
i think especially in the fast vocal parts they need to be more out front...or louder..or something its hard to make out..?..i like the way the .."IT HOLDS YOU.(yeah)..<----the "yeah" part sounds lazy .but it sounds perfect that way...make sense??..thats great .
the mix is really really clean . the cymbals sounded fine to me.the first version had none ..i remember that well i guess the one on the end..around 3:30 where one guitar comes in on the left ..then fades into the right in stereo LOVE THAT . the reverse effect is cool dont over do it...the last one is a touch loud or just stop the song when the cymbal stops maybe?..it sounds odd to build up (the reverse cymbal)...then the rest fades out...



but what the hell do i know
:D
jamal
 
Hmmm...ok. This is helping a lot. Chris this take was done with an ADK a-51 but the last one was with my beta 57. Jamal the drums are actually an electronic pad, an SPD6 and Yammy MU-50 module with real cymbals.

I will work on the vocals and try to get them more mid-rangey and front. I guess I'll take all the rev cymbals except for the "under his wing" spots. For some reason this one is really hard for me to sing all the way through, it kills my throat. I guess it's just the volume I have to sing it at to get it to work, I've never gotten a whole take sung the way I want it but I refuse to paste a take together. I will keep trying and the next installment will hopefully be the last.

Thanks guys.
 
The drums sounded good on this end, and I like the backwards cymbals ...

I think you may be having trouble with the vocals (your opinion) just because the tune is a little bit complicated, though, since I can't sing to save my life, I have to say that they sounded fine to me. I salute you for going for a one take performance. I like the interplay with the bg vocals. Guitar playing was great and I like the feel of the song.

:)
 
How did I miss the first incarnation of this?I really like this jake-owa.The vocals sound great but they could stand to come up just a hair.I like the background vox stuff.......cool work for sure.The guitars really good too.The bass and drums are sitting in the mix just right to my ears......oh,the cymbals.....I cant help you there.I have the hardest time trying to record drums and cymbals from machines and loops....the cymbals didnt sound bad...nothing came out as sounding wrong or that it shouldnt be there.

How did you record the Bass guitar?Direct?Pre-amp?

What did you use for drums?Real?Samples?

This tune has a nice vocal hook.

Cool song my hawaiian friend.:p
 
Thanks guys. Not to be rude but I'm over this one, I wish I could erase the thread.

Check out the new thread with new vocals, I think it's waaay better.


BTW the drumsa re a electronic/accoustic hybrid kit I use and the bass was miced with a samson S11 out of my Vox T25 combo cab.

Check out the new mix.
 
Ok, this thread is offically closed, check out the "I think I nailed it" thread for the latest version of this song, thank you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top