A Silly Little Thing....

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Garry Sharp said:
Clean - Di'd through my Sansamp Bass Driver on passive, through an SPL Goldmike pre (which is really a mic only pre) into the PC.
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Cool. Thanks.
Ed
 
hey dog, definately experiment with Incanus's suggestion about using a room mic and a little bit of close mic. it's a very "real" sound. kind of what you hear is what you get thing. it may be just what you're looking for.
 
Turnitdown, Travis...Thanks for listening, and thanks for the suggestions. I hope to have some play time later, and will probably try a few of these suggestions. I want to give APL's new Rumble a try.
Thanks.
Ed
 
The rhythm guitars starting out sound full and rich. There's an interesting rhythmic springboard effect I hear where the one gtr is propelled every other beat by other with a 16th note offset between them. The lead line at :24 is very impressive. Dogman, you're always so self-depreciating in your comments... I think you have more ability than you realize.

Tim
 
Timothy Lawler said:
The rhythm guitars starting out sound full and rich. There's an interesting rhythmic springboard effect I hear where the one gtr is propelled every other beat by other with a 16th note offset between them. The lead line at :24 is very impressive. Dogman, you're always so self-depreciating in your comments... I think you have more ability than you realize.

Tim
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Well, thanks for the kind words Tim. I'd feel better if I could get the sounds in my head, into a recording. I'm sure a lot of people feel this way, and it's a never ending process. Thanks again, as I really appreciate what you can hear in music, and it's interesting to read, then go back and see exactly how this translates. This not being the normal genre of music you listen to, means you bring in a different perspective, and your insight has elements that I would normally probably never think about, until you said something.
So, thanks again.
Ed
 
that's cool Ed...

nice groove and the Lead in the middle was unexpected but fit...

geeze, I thought the guitars were just fine... they left a lot of open space in the song which was nice...

-keith-
 
Sonixx said:
that's cool Ed...

nice groove and the Lead in the middle was unexpected but fit...

geeze, I thought the guitars were just fine... they left a lot of open space in the song which was nice...

-keith-
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Thanks, man. Much appreciated. :D
 
Hey, Ed.

From what I can tell about your demeanor from your posts that I have read here, you will take what I have to say with an open mind, knowing that advice from anyone is yours to take or leave as appropriate to your situation, which you know better than anyone here.

All right, then. I think that you are a wonderful guitar player. You have rhythm chops and lead chops, solid dexterity. Working on your tones and recording your tones is essential and worthwhile and I hope you get some good results the next time you try micing.

The point I really would like to make, then, is that I would absolutely love to hear you put more time and energy into a single song. I realize that this particular song was a quick idea that you wanted to just get down on tape, more or less. The one or two other recordings of yours I've listened to, I think, were similar in this regard. I'd blow off my mom's birthday to hear something of yours that you spent weeks or months on, writing, recording, and re-working. I'd love to hear Dogman get ultra-creative. You seem to like what SC and I have done--steal some of the technique and apply it to your songs/ideas. I think if you really dig in, and don't try to finish in a hurry, you will like the results better. Use layering, counter-parts and melodies, a different drum beat on this verse, that chorus, etc. and so on. I think that that is the area you could use the most work on.

Anyway, take it for what it is. One opinion out of countless millions.

But then again, if you gain no enjoyment from that approach, screw it! I will check your stuff out as often as I can, no matter what you do.

Take care!!!
 
good words Incanus. you're getting some very good advice Dogman.
 
Incanus said:
Hey, Ed.

From what I can tell about your demeanor from your posts that I have read here, you will take what I have to say with an open mind, knowing that advice from anyone is yours to take or leave as appropriate to your situation, which you know better than anyone here.

All right, then. I think that you are a wonderful guitar player. You have rhythm chops and lead chops, solid dexterity. Working on your tones and recording your tones is essential and worthwhile and I hope you get some good results the next time you try micing.

The point I really would like to make, then, is that I would absolutely love to hear you put more time and energy into a single song. I realize that this particular song was a quick idea that you wanted to just get down on tape, more or less. The one or two other recordings of yours I've listened to, I think, were similar in this regard. I'd blow off my mom's birthday to hear something of yours that you spent weeks or months on, writing, recording, and re-working. I'd love to hear Dogman get ultra-creative. You seem to like what SC and I have done--steal some of the technique and apply it to your songs/ideas. I think if you really dig in, and don't try to finish in a hurry, you will like the results better. Use layering, counter-parts and melodies, a different drum beat on this verse, that chorus, etc. and so on. I think that that is the area you could use the most work on.

Anyway, take it for what it is. One opinion out of countless millions.

But then again, if you gain no enjoyment from that approach, screw it! I will check your stuff out as often as I can, no matter what you do.

Take care!!!
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Well, thanks, Incanus, and aslo from you Travis, as I read your post also. I do have a couple in the works, that have been going on quite a while, and hopefully... :D , they will sound much better. They are both off to pretty good starts, and are actually very different types of songs. I appreciate the words, and have actually done this based on some comments made on some earlier stuff I did. You had mentioned, and Casey also, about doing more layers, and trying to tighten some stuff up, and I didn't want to work on that particular song anymore, but have been working pretty hard on these 2.

Again, thanks for the comments, as they are much appreciated. Too all.
Ed
 
Dogman said:
Well, thanks, Incanus, and aslo from you Travis, as I read your post also. I do have a couple in the works, that have been going on quite a while, and hopefully... :D , they will sound much better. They are both off to pretty good starts, and are actually very different types of songs. I appreciate the words, and have actually done this based on some comments made on some earlier stuff I did. You had mentioned, and Casey also, about doing more layers, and trying to tighten some stuff up, and I didn't want to work on that particular song anymore, but have been working pretty hard on these 2.

Again, thanks for the comments, as they are much appreciated. Too all.
Ed
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Great!! I'm looking forward to listening to these. Sounds intriguing!
 
best tune of yours i've heard so far, dog :)

i LIKE the guitars, they sound great! What do you use for listening back? Maybe you ARE getting the sound you want, you just don't know it because your playback monitors aren't up for it? Just a desperate idea :D
 
madmush said:
best tune of yours i've heard so far, dog :)

i LIKE the guitars, they sound great! What do you use for listening back? Maybe you ARE getting the sound you want, you just don't know it because your playback monitors aren't up for it? Just a desperate idea :D
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thanks, madmush. I have a 5.1 system on the computer, plus I usually burn to cd, adn listen on the stereo...It's a Sony that has some pretty good speakers, and sub. 200 watt with some decent eq and such. But, it always is good to have othere ears listen, on their systems.
Thanks, dude.
Ed
 
Man I was expecting something bad after reading your into/description of this tune...I thought it rocked!!If anything the riffing guitars coulda used a little more definition or clarity...the lead at the end seemed up a bit to much in the mix compared to the rest...I dig your vocals!!This was cool!
 
Well, the hard panning gives it an artificially thin tone, so it's hard to judge, but on the whole, I like the guitar tone. I'm sure you're aware of the reverb curve mismatches, and the generally disjointed mix, and I know that's not what you care about. SO, to answer your question, I like the guitar tones in and of themselves...

Ad for the lead tone, do a DI and mic combo, pan them about 45 degrees split, with the mean just off center in the direction of the mic side; put more 'verb on the mic side than the DI side. Neat effect, good blend of organinc and thick electronic... Just a thought... :)
 
Llarion said:
Well, the hard panning gives it an artificially thin tone, so it's hard to judge, but on the whole, I like the guitar tone. I'm sure you're aware of the reverb curve mismatches, and the generally disjointed mix, and I know that's not what you care about. SO, to answer your question, I like the guitar tones in and of themselves...

Ad for the lead tone, do a DI and mic combo, pan them about 45 degrees split, with the mean just off center in the direction of the mic side; put more 'verb on the mic side than the DI side. Neat effect, good blend of organinc and thick electronic... Just a thought... :)
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Thanks, Llarion...and to Super for bumpin. I hope to work on some different guitar sounds this weekend, and will definitely try some of these techniques. Thanks again guys.
Ed
 
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