A million dollars question

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How many Sonar and Home Studio copies have been sold in the world ?

Are those products the most used in the sequencers market?

SergeD
 
Unfortunately, Pro Tools outsells all other audio software combined.
 
Really I could not tell about Pro Tools or Cubase or Sonar

SergeD
 
Eliminating the pro studios, Cakewalk/Sonar dominates in the US, Japan.
Cubase, Logic are more popular in Europe, but Sonar's gaining ground.

ProTools didn't do midi until a few version ago (it still isn't up to Sonar)
so home studio use was limited.

kirk
(Cakewalk user sin PA 5)
 
I'm a Sonar user, too. But I also get monthly and annual music sales reports; which show Digis domination in pro and home segments.
 
My attempt in this thread is only to evaluate the market possibilities for a VST developer for Cakewalk products.

Thanks for your comments,

SergeD
 
if you're developer worth your salt, it should be possible to develop both by layering the protocol layer.
 
AFAIK, VST is a Steinberg standard. Hosts should follow that standard (or "protocol" as fraserhutch put it).

Your VST should be compatible with any VST host. Not just Cakewalk.
 
fraserhutch said:
if you're developer worth your salt, it should be possible to develop both by layering the protocol layer.
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fraserhutch,

Sorry I can translate what you said but I guess dany.Guitar did it already :)

Thanks to both of you

SergeD
 
steiny will give you the SDK for the asking.... and i'ld like to see the figures as to who's on first... so to speak... i'ld be surprised if steiny doesnt rule here as well... especially as nuendo and cubase are essentially the same app...
 
Is Pro Tools or Pro Tools LE really better then Sonar?
Lately, everywhere I go people keep telling me I am missing out by not using Pro Tools.

Frankly, Sonar 5 producer (what I am using currently) works really well for me and more importantly I already know how to use it. If I were to switch to protools the downsides I can think of would be:

a) limited number of tracks (in pro tools le)
b) no ability to use my firepod
c) new learning curve to deal with
d) additional expense having to buy digidesign/maudio stuff
e) ...

what would are my upsides to making the switch? can anyone think of any compelling reasons to make the move? What would I get out of switching that I dont already have? Can anyone come up with anything that would make the switch to pro tools worth it?

Thanks in advance for your insight/feedback
-Alex
 
Sonar

I've been using Cakewalk since the days of DOS. Does anybody remember DOS. I'm still happy.
 
Nevermind that Pro Tools is proprietary ... like Apple Computers were/are.

By virtue of that fact alone, users will overpay for everything for the privilege of using their stuff.

Just check out the cost of plug ins in TDM format versus everything else.

Kev-
 
While I'm not 100% sure if this is the way it works with Pro Tools, but in the case of Apple computers, the reason they're used so much in this field is because they're proprietary. Meaning, the same company designs the hardware and builds the software around it. So, it's built to work with itself. In the case of non-apple PC's (Apples are Personal Computers too!), the operating system(s) are made to work within a set of given standards, and the hardware is made to work within a given set of standards, but there are so many (near-infinite) combinations of hardware that it's nearly impossible to create 100% stable software in every condition.

Or something. :D
 
Hey Serge,

Actually, I meant something slightly different than what Danny said.

Now, this is based on practical theory, but not actual practice, as I've never coded a VST or RTAS plugin. I have done plenty of work in a similar vein.

If diligently coded, your plugin should be able to support both VST and RTAS. VST and RTAS are (to the best of my knowledge) protocols for communication between a DAW and a plugin. The actual interesting work will be the same for both, and if you layer the VST/RTAS code, you can share the important stuff.

Does that make sense? It would look something like this:

-----------------------------
| Plugin Code |
-----------------------------
| Common |
| Host Communication Layer |
-----------------------------
| VST | RST | whatever |
-----------------------------



SergeD said:
fraserhutch,

Sorry I can translate what you said but I guess dany.Guitar did it already :)

Thanks to both of you

SergeD
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alexspetty said:
Can anyone come up with anything that would make the switch to pro tools worth it?
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If you needed to be compatible with other studios that were running pro tools, then it might make sense to switch. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it. All the major applications do things a little differently, but they all have the same features.
 
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