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allright when i hear people say "the mpc sampler sucks" i get really confused, i mean whats wron with it? what more do you need in a sampler? all i need it for is ...........for sampling, and it does that...... i dont understand what people mean by "it sucks." I think its just fine, if you know how to use it.
 
Taz,

People's complaint about the MPC sampler is that it is not as fully featured as a rackmount like the S2000 or ESI2000 at the least. And therin lies the problem/misconception. If you read the box, or, hell, the MPC itself, and it says "drum sampler". Don't know what people think this is supposed to mean, but to me it means that the sampler is built to sample and edit drums. And it's coupled with a tight @$$ sequencer, that is as quick and intuitive to use as anything out there. And again, it's not meant to be as full of bells and whistles like DP. And while I love DP, to build a groove with the MPC, particularly a rhythm groove, is unparalleled.
The thing about buying gear is to build like a house. Too many people want one piece of gear to be the be-all to end-all. You'll never find it. Triton's sampler sucks, but it has great sounds. MPC's sampler sucks, but it has a great sequencer. Computers crash, but the editing and flexibility is out of this world. Yadda, yadda, yadda. I pieced my setup together by choosing what would work well for me, and what would work well together, not by one piece of gear being feature laden.
I've been a gear head for over 15 years, worked in/for seriously decked out studios, and have used many great pieces of gear. So before you buy, ask yourself: will it get the job done?
 
If all else fails......

Then just do what you feel is best.
But I am unsure of the way that you are using the term "sample/r".
If you already know this, then totally disregard, and if I'm wrong, then someone let me know!
Basically, every electronic synth that produces sounds is going to be some type of sampler.
The sounds are sampled into the computer of the piece of gear, and when you press the corresponding key or pad on the gear, it produces the sampled audio that was recorded into it's system.
In some cases it is possible to record your own sampled audio data, and use it just like you would with the other sounds.
Is this possible with the MPC? I am not sure because I never really was interested with it (Out of price range, right now!). I probably have the cheapest, non-stereotypical set-up there is, and I can still keep the heads bobbin.
If all else fails, then you should go out and buy all of the things you think you need, or feel you need.
Unfortunately, all the suggestions in the world won't be able to help you, and going to a store to try out a piece of equipment, IN MY OPINION, is somewhat useless, unless the representative and other customers know you will be on it for an extended period of time.
You don't become 1 with a piece of gear through those type of sessions.
So you don't actually see the full potentiality, until you mess with it so much, that when you try to go to sleep at night, you are asking yourself, "What if I tried this?", and BOOM-inspiration strikes, and everyone is familiar with this routine-HA!!!
In this way you learn your current equipment, what you should have gotten, what you don't need, and exactly what to get next time around.
And when you know that, the next time you upgrade, you will be in a powerful position to accomplish what it is you want to do, and how.
My 2 cents.

I-AM
 
aliengroover said:
Taz,

People's complaint about the MPC sampler is that it is not as fully featured as a rackmount like the S2000 or ESI2000 at the least. And therin lies the problem/misconception. If you read the box, or, hell, the MPC itself, and it says "drum sampler". Don't know what people think this is supposed to mean, but to me it means that the sampler is built to sample and edit drums.
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To me that means its a crappy sampler. Its a great sequencer though, and the sampler will suffice for drum hits most definately.
But, For a more complete set up, a better sampler, a rompler, and maybe a virtual analog unit would help flesh things out. I think the balance within the mpc is perfect, to have its abilities for sequencing AND drum samples, yet for anything beyond that hook up a rackmount sampler and your going to be having a better time of it.
 
The biggest, BIGGEST thing I think was missed was musicianship. Really! Do you understand all the stuff you plan on doing IE time signatures, harmonies, melody, song structure, blah blah blah. If not the learning curve it gonna suck! Not only learning the gear but learning the music end of it could kill you. If you havent really used any of this stuff or done anything like this, I'd recommend starting smaller, because whats proposed so far is great stuff, but if you have never used it or never programed stuff, bad news.
 
Jaybird,

Totally agree. And if you really like how the MPC sounds, buy the S2000 (they're extrememly cheap now) to go with it, because that's where the MPCs engine comes from. And, it's a waaay better sampler, overall.
 
yo rancid! I got curious, cuz of this thread.. and I spent a couple hours with my buddie's Tascam 788 tonight.

my conclusion: a $900 toy. I would recommend it to a middle schooler.

The faders rock, the pots are crappy, the little screen is hard to deal with. It has 4 quarter inch ins, no phantom power, and it boots slow. An e-machine outperforms it.

my $.25

xoxo
 
base guitar

hey y'all..i need a lil help..i'm really interrested in making beats. i have all i need but i have a lil problem with the bass guitar..does any one here knows how to make the sound of a bass guitar?....any software or hardware? and any other way to make a mute guitar sound like swizz beats and oters do. and also any digital effects..if any one knows about these things, please let me know i really need help with that....
 
drum software or machine

hey ..its me again...i also wanna know what's the best drum source is out there lately
thanks
 
REASON 2.5

Basslines
Soft synths
Hard synths
Drumkits
Brass & Strings
The whole NINE! ! !

It's supposedly geared towards Electronica/House/Trip Hop Music, but most finds that it will works for anything once you slow down the tempo. It allows a person like me to record midi over midi over midi over midi, layer tracks, or simply loop a 4/4, 4/8,4/16.........I'm not a keyboardist, but I can put together a whole cut piece by piece ya heard!
 
heres what i recommend rancid for flexibility and value for money.
1. get a fast computer. i recommend amd athlon. with a good sound card eg: delta series.
2. RENT loads of machines and synths etc and record their sounds into
wave format on the pc. i use powertracks from pgmusic.com.
which will let you record the sounds, save them, then you have 48 tracks to build beat tracks, industrial tracks or whatever turns your fancy.
then you can record your (multi layered if you wish) vocals or rapping over the top. powertracks is only 29 bucks and is superb. check out the audio edit features for creating new beat patterns for example.
try the demo if you dont believe me. also get the free hotstepper if you wish (via google) for laying down beat tracks using the real samples you recorded from the machine.
add a sample cd of loads of different drum sounds, strung together beats,
and industrial sounds, and youll have a million different ways to do your masterpiece.
just trying to help.
ps - note in powertracks you could use the internal effects like chorusing, echo, reverb etc to build all new sonic palettes. and whole tracks of custom beats and noises of your own making. JUST EXPERIMENT with the demo and youll see what i mean. you also have a built in drum machine in powertracks including tons of styles, and you can even make your own.
peace.
 
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