a few simple pro tools/le questions

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1. in pro tools le can i track with a plugin(say a eq on a kick drum)and have that plugin go "to tape"?

2. can i insert a plugin(say a compressor)to the 2 mix buss for final mix? how about a hardware comp on the 2 mix?.

3. can a sepreate q mix be made for the people tracking with headphones? (kind of like mackie's "mix b" section).


thanks.
 
Hey man- You can't have the plug in go to tape, but you can still monitor what the plug-in is doing and then apply it permanently to tape

If you insert a master fader, then you can put whatever plug-in you want for the 2-mix. You can use an I/O as an insert too for outboard stuff. That works the same for every track.

You can use aux sends for a headphone mixes.

Doing all this at one the same time will probably use up a big chunk of CPU.

Good Luck
 
just use an aux and have the signal go through it first then out to a track.......your effect is then stamped. If I were you I would just monitor the effect, and not make it perminate just incase you change your mind later down the road.
 
1. in pro tools le can i track with a plugin(say a eq on a kick drum)and have that plugin go "to tape"?

Yes. This does not work in "Low Latency Monitoring" mode, but in any other mode, this works just fine.

2. can i insert a plugin(say a compressor)to the 2 mix buss for final mix? how about a hardware comp on the 2 mix?.

Yes and yes. To use a plugin, just put it on the master fader. To use a hardware plugin, set the master fader output to one of the pairs of outputs (3-4, 5-6, etc.), run that output into the hardware, run the output back into a pair of inputs (3-4, 5-6, etc.), and record that input back to a stereo track.

3. can a sepreate q mix be made for the people tracking with headphones? (kind of like mackie's "mix b" section).

You can actually do as many submixes as you have outputs and available busses. Practically, you can do 5 submixes (each track has 5 available sends), without getting into some complicated internal routing. If you need more than that, PM me. For each track that you want to be part of a submix, add a send, route that send to a bus, create an aux channel for the bus, route the input of the aux channel to the bus, route the output of the aux channel to a stereo output pair. Then mix levels and pan accordingly. (If that sounds complicated, once you do it once, it will seem very simple.)
 
Hey charger- when you record with and effect, it doesn't print it in the track, so you still the the plug-in inserted to hear the effect, that's what he was asking to do. I also think it's easier to use the inserts for outboard gear, instead of sending it out and rerecording. In the insert section you can select any one of your I/Os. So when everythings set, it will record when you bounce to disk, that's why pro tools plays through the entire song, so you can bounce with outboard gear.
 
maddrummer said:
Doing all this at one the same time will probably use up a big chunk of CPU.
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I thought that protools ran on its own processing engine (built into the pci card) as opposed to your pc's cpu... Or is that just the higher end PT stuff?
 
Hey charger- when you record with and effect, it doesn't print it in the track, so you still the the plug-in inserted to hear the effect, that's what he was asking to do. I also think it's easier to use the inserts for outboard gear, instead of sending it out and rerecording. In the insert section you can select any one of your I/Os. So when everythings set, it will record when you bounce to disk, that's why pro tools plays through the entire song, so you can bounce with outboard gear.
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When I record with effects on a track, they are always printed to the track. Unless I am in Low Latency Monitoring mode, in which case the plugins are grayed out, and aren't recorded to the track.

There are no "inserts" in hte hardware mixer sense--anything you send out to a piece of hardware has to be sent back in. In the situation you are talking about, you can use an aux track to bring the audio back in. That's a viable solution too. I just like to have the hardware processed audio recorded to a track so I don't have to keep hardware plugged in all the time, and I can keep my session portable... but the only hardware I ever want to plug in an process is at other studios, so that's another reason.
 
trogdor said:
I thought that protools ran on its own processing engine (built into the pci card) as opposed to your pc's cpu... Or is that just the higher end PT stuff?
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Just the higher end, TDM stuff- Mix, Mix+, and the HD stuff. The mbox, 001, 002, and 002 rack all use the host system for all processing. The TDM systems can all use host-based processing, too.

Take care,
Chris
 
No if you go to your insert section on a channel, you can choose one of your hardware outputs, so if you choose 1-2, then you have to return it to 1-2 in. I have version 6.1 on a mac, maybe it's different in your case, but i know you could do it on version 5.

So when you record with a plug-in, when not in low latency monitoring mode, the plug-in is no longer in the insert and the effect is still there?
 
No if you go to your insert section on a channel, you can choose one of your hardware outputs, so if you choose 1-2, then you have to return it to 1-2 in. I have version 6.1 on a mac, maybe it's different in your case, but i know you could do it on version 5.
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I'm not on 6.0 yet, I'm on 5.1 Ok, what is the insert section to you? The insert section is the top section, where you insert plugins. Are you saying you can select outputs and inputs there on one track? That would be new functionality to me. The next section down is the sends, where you can select an output. You don't have to return it to any certain set of inputs (e.g. you could send a track to outputs 3-4 and return them to 7-8). Pro Tools doesn't care where the audio goes when it's outside the box.
So when you record with a plug-in, when not in low latency monitoring mode, the plug-in is no longer in the insert and the effect is still there?
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No, of course the plugin is physically still there. Plugins don't get automatically removed from channels. But the results of the plugin on the audio stream are recorded to the audio track. If you remove the plugin, you will hear that the audio has been processed.
 
Yea in the insert section (the very top one like you said) you click once and a window pops up with "no insert", "plug-in" or "i/o". And the TDM systems have the tdm plugins too. So you can pick any of your i/o and use it as an actual insert. Works better for compressors and things that you would normally insert. I'm not getting it confused with using sends. I've done this in version 5.xxxsomething too.

So i opened a new track, put a big noticable reverb, and recorded (not in low latency monitoring) myself snaping my fingers, something that would make the verb stand out more. I could hear the verb while recording and only in playback when the the plug in was inserted. took the plug in out and it was dry.

Is there a setting that you can choose this. I looked in preferences but found nothing. So after you track something with plug-ins, is your next step to remove the plug-ins so that you're using double eq or verb or whatever?
 
forgot this......go to Setups-I/O Setup........at the top you should have input, output bus and insert.
 
If you record with a hardware insert, does it get recorded to a track? I haven't tried the plugin recording thing with LE because I always run LE in low latency monitoring mode, but on my Mix+ system, they're definitely recorded to disk when I track through them.

I haven't used the hardware inserts the way you do, but if you set it up in the I/O setup, that's definitely the way to go, unless you only want the track partially processed (e.g. reverb). If you are roving to a different studio to use their outboard gear, you would want to print the efx to a separate track (assuming the track you are effecting is already recorded), in which case you would need a separate track anyway.
 
My experience with plug inserts on live input audio tracks just last week was that they are NOT recorded to disk when tracking with PT LE 6.1.1. Maybe there is a preference somewhere that can change that, but it didn't work for me.

I can't remember if I routed the audio out of the input track or just bussed it to an Aux track with the plug, but I sent that output to another audio track and recorded it. That worked.

I haven't tried using hardware insert setups with the 002, but I *like* the idea. I'd love to patch in the RNC as a fairly transparent limiter at times.

take care,
Chris
 
As far as I can tell, the Santa Cruz membership of this board is 100% Pro Tools users.
 
We all live too close to Daly City, the source of things Digi. :)

I must say, though, the local music stores *always* have the latest and greatest stuff from Digi- no waiting for shipping. :D

I dunno what to say: Santa cruz is pretty laid back so Pro Tools can't be all that bad...

-C
 
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